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Vanja #66 wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 21:45
SiLo wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 23:11
Thanks Vanja!
FDD wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 14:06
I think that some of us (me for sure) do not understand properly effect of the curvature/shape of the main profile, both longitudinal and transversal.
It would be nice if/when you have time (will also :) ) to prepare some post/explanation maybe in the part "Aerodynamics, chassis and tires".
Thank You
This thread is ready and early results are in :)

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Thank you a lot.

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Did anyone notice the floor stays do not connect to the floor but the edge wing?

Looking at the wing seperation brackets placement they seem to target some flexure benefit. That would be very smart.

When measured, the floor edge is very stiff due to te stay, but the floor and wing itself might be quite flexible. Suction Will suck the floor down and cantilever the wing up

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Henk_v wrote:
05 Mar 2024, 18:57
Did anyone notice the floor stays do not connect to the floor but the edge wing?

Looking at the wing seperation brackets placement they seem to target some flexure benefit. That would be very smart.

When measured, the floor edge is very stiff due to te stay, but the floor and wing itself might be quite flexible. Suction Will suck the floor down and cantilever the wing up
I don’t think the edge wing is still disconnected at the rear. It seems like it’s a continuous surface.

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Last year the stay anchor was the same part as one of the wing attachments/separators iirc. This general layout was iirc similar. They terminate the edge wing flush into the floor (as shown above).
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Henk_v wrote:
05 Mar 2024, 18:57
Did anyone notice the floor stays do not connect to the floor but the edge wing?

Looking at the wing seperation brackets placement they seem to target some flexure benefit. That would be very smart.

When measured, the floor edge is very stiff due to te stay, but the floor and wing itself might be quite flexible. Suction Will suck the floor down and cantilever the wing up
The stay was actually connected to the edge wing since 23 Barcelona Evo spec

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Later floor specs then fully integrated this into 1 common bracket and the edge wing started forming a continuous outer edge surface with the rear corner, thus only leaving the lateral slot gap

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Owen.C93 wrote:
05 Mar 2024, 19:47
I don’t think the edge wing is still disconnected at the rear. It seems like it’s a continuous surface.

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Still has the medium downforce spec mounted. I'm sure this will change sometime this weekend looking at everyone else's choice. Even though this wing with a single element beam wing was my prediciton I tend to agree with Vanja's prediction of the Spa 2023 wing.


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I hope they run 2 different wings in FP1 to evaluate the differences. Worried if they’re planning on running medium df the top speeds will be too compromised as per last year

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 13:22
Vanja #66 wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 11:46
Vinlarr89 wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 11:19
What wings have been tested on the car so far and which wing do we expect to be fitted for Jeddah? Last year IIRC they ran a different wing to Bahrain. Would we expect a lower DF wing to be ran in Jeddah?
That's a good question, they've used the new low-downforce wing (from Spa 23) in Fiorano for a few laps only. As things stand, the medium level wing used in Bahrain is probably too big for Jeddah. Also, SF23 was really good in low downforce tracks the whole season (other than Jeddah, when they didn't set the car up for the low downforce) compared to medium and high df tracks, so SF24 could ultimately do better in Jeddah with a low df wing. They will have to test both wings and it might be a case of Vegas, Day 1 on higher df wing, but Day 2 and 3 on lower df wing, with a better, rubberred in track.

I personally feel they'll only have a change of beam wing
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I not ruling out a mid weekend change or some back to back runnning in FP1

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Vinlarr89 wrote:
06 Mar 2024, 18:52
I hope they run 2 different wings in FP1 to evaluate the differences. Worried if they’re planning on running medium df the top speeds will be too compromised as per last year
Personally I think technically wise they know they are doing. they need to sort out things on the operational side. Last week they failed to maximize the result in quali and then the big issue with the brakes in race. They need the practicality of their main rivals.

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If Ferrari changes their RW it will indeed be for the 2023 model.

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Spa wing as predicted

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Ferrari is sticking with it's Bahrain rear wing so far.

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I can’t tell if they’ve switched beam wings. It looked like it on Sainz car but I’m not 100%

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Vinlarr89 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 19:55
I can’t tell if they’ve switched beam wings. It looked like it on Sainz car but I’m not 100%
I think they are running single element.