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[Dunlay]

What a fine and clean racer George really is! His start, defence against Max and then the little battle with Lando was a perfect example of how racing can be done respectfully and not clattering other cars or driving them off the road.

This race has given a good picture of where Mercedes stands with regards to the race pace at the moment. It's a clear 3rd. McLaren is on par or may be a tenth down per lap on the average over the length of a race. A bad second driver at Red Bull and a "not yet up to the mark" second driver at McLaren is allowing the two Mercedes drivers to cash in on podiums. Behind them are the Ferraris.

[ToffeeTyres]

Russell prioritises track position and leans too much on the tyres right at start and after pit stops. He needs to find a balance somehow.

Yeah his problem isn't race pace, it's race intelligence.

Exactly. He just burns his tyres too early every time

[Dunlay]

Russell prioritises track position and leans too much on the tyres right at start and after pit stops. He needs to find a balance somehow.

Yeah his problem isn't race pace, it's race intelligence.

Exactly. He just burns his tyres too early every time

It's just one race and the jury is out? If not for Mercedes putting George on a wrong tyre, we wouldn't be discussing this matter. Mercedes and George probably thought they can fight Lando and that is where George tried unsuccessfully fighting with Lando, getting his tyres a bit shot, which then gave an opportunity for Lewis to come by. He would still be fine if he was put on Softs for the last stint. Last race it was Lewis that got a raw deal with the strategy and this week, it's George. Because they are so well matched, any small issue can change their fortunes. It's not one is better than the other or any other fairy tale stuff. This is going to happen all season long.

[Spoutnik]

Yeah his problem isn't race pace, it's race intelligence.

Exactly. He just burns his tyres too early every time

It's just one race and the jury is out? If not for Mercedes putting George on a wrong tyre, we wouldn't be discussing this matter. Mercedes and George probably thought they can fight Lando and that is where George tried unsuccessfully fighting with Lando, getting his tyres a bit shot, which then gave an opportunity for Lewis to come by. He would still be fine if he was put on Softs for the last stint. Last race it was Lewis that got a raw deal with the strategy and this week, it's George. Because they are so well matched, any small issue can change their fortunes. It's not one is better than the other or any other fairy tale stuff. This is going to happen all season long.

He had to be stopped because his medium were worn and Lewis was in his DRS zone. Pitting so early the team couldn't put soft tyres for him (same for Sainz)

[ToffeeTyres]

Yeah his problem isn't race pace, it's race intelligence.

Exactly. He just burns his tyres too early every time

It's just one race and the jury is out? If not for Mercedes putting George on a wrong tyre, we wouldn't be discussing this matter. Mercedes and George probably thought they can fight Lando and that is where George tried unsuccessfully fighting with Lando, getting his tyres a bit shot, which then gave an opportunity for Lewis to come by. He would still be fine if he was put on Softs for the last stint. Last race it was Lewis that got a raw deal with the strategy and this week, it's George. Because they are so well matched, any small issue can change their fortunes. It's not one is better than the other or any other fairy tale stuff. This is going to happen all season long.

George couldn’t go on soft when he came in they wouldn’t last. Reason why he came in was because he cooked his tyres fighting Lando plus team prob brought him in to make sure he stayed ahead of Lewis also. Hamilton was right on his gearbox right before George pitted and would have passed him

[SchuMassa]

Hamilton starting to wake up. He is always slow to learn, but when he does...
The qualy prep and how to push was his issue. Now he knows.

Oh Lord I should have known that if Lewis, by any chance, has a hard time beating his teammate, it's always the circumstances.
One of the most experienced and successful drivers ever to live is slow to learn? Cannot it be that slowly but steadily, his age is showing? It's natural, nothing to be ashamed of. But of course, you'd have to be (or at least pretend to be) objective to see that...
Great race by Lewis. Arguably the best when it comes to tyre management and reading the race.

[ab_f1]

The fight with Lando wasn't too bad imo. These tyres need nursing in first couple laps and his outlap was blistering.

[Dunlay]

Exactly. He just burns his tyres too early every time

It's just one race and the jury is out? If not for Mercedes putting George on a wrong tyre, we wouldn't be discussing this matter. Mercedes and George probably thought they can fight Lando and that is where George tried unsuccessfully fighting with Lando, getting his tyres a bit shot, which then gave an opportunity for Lewis to come by. He would still be fine if he was put on Softs for the last stint. Last race it was Lewis that got a raw deal with the strategy and this week, it's George. Because they are so well matched, any small issue can change their fortunes. It's not one is better than the other or any other fairy tale stuff. This is going to happen all season long.

He had to be stopped because his medium were worn and Lewis was in his DRS zone. Pitting so early the team couldn't put soft tyres for him (same for Sainz)

Didn't you watch Lando's first stint on full race fuel load? Lewis did 23 laps on softs in last stint and George had to do 29! There was no sign of degradation on Lewis' last stint. The track was fully rubbered and fuel keeps going down. It's just that Mercedes strategy team is still in cave age. They don't take calculated risks. Next this would happen to Lewis. It already happened to Lewis in Canada.

[venkyhere]

What a fine and clean racer George really is! His start, defence against Max and then the little battle with Lando was a perfect example of how racing can be done respectfully and not clattering other cars or driving them off the road.

OMG, one race where RUS keeps his nose clean and doesn't pull off a torpedo terrorism move, and you come to this conclusion. Nothing against him, that is his 'all or nothing style' , each driver has their own ; but to call RUS a 'clean racer' is the overstatement of the century. He is a faster, more intelligent version of Magnussen, IMHO. And that's fine. He will change. The moment he has a car that can win a championship, he will change his methods. Verstappen is proof. But please, please do not use this race to call RUS a 'respectfully driving' racer. No.

[Dunlay]

What a fine and clean racer George really is! His start, defence against Max and then the little battle with Lando was a perfect example of how racing can be done respectfully and not clattering other cars or driving them off the road.

OMG, one race where RUS keeps his nose clean and doesn't pull off a torpedo terrorism move, and you come to this conclusion. Nothing against him, that is his 'all or nothing style' , each driver has their own ; but to call RUS a 'clean racer' is the overstatement of the century. He is a faster, more intelligent version of Magnussen, IMHO. And that's fine. He will change. The moment he has a car that can win a championship, he will change his methods. Verstappen is proof. But please, please do not use this race to call RUS a 'respectfully driving' racer. No.

Some examples please. Some stats also help to prove your point.

[venkyhere]

On another note, Mercedes are back. This is as representative a track as there can be. Can say with confidence, they have cracked ground effect, finally. It took 21/2 seasons, but better late than never. Congrats to the team.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

What a fine and clean racer George really is! His start, defence against Max and then the little battle with Lando was a perfect example of how racing can be done respectfully and not clattering other cars or driving them off the road.

OMG, one race where RUS keeps his nose clean and doesn't pull off a torpedo terrorism move, and you come to this conclusion. Nothing against him, that is his 'all or nothing style' , each driver has their own ; but to call RUS a 'clean racer' is the overstatement of the century. He is a faster, more intelligent version of Magnussen, IMHO. And that's fine. He will change. The moment he has a car that can win a championship, he will change his methods. Verstappen is proof. But please, please do not use this race to call RUS a 'respectfully driving' racer. No.

George clashes with barriers and fences, but Lewis clashes with others (for example, in Qatar and Miami). Facts.

[Dunlay]

What a fine and clean racer George really is! His start, defence against Max and then the little battle with Lando was a perfect example of how racing can be done respectfully and not clattering other cars or driving them off the road.

OMG, one race where RUS keeps his nose clean and doesn't pull off a torpedo terrorism move, and you come to this conclusion. Nothing against him, that is his 'all or nothing style' , each driver has their own ; but to call RUS a 'clean racer' is the overstatement of the century. He is a faster, more intelligent version of Magnussen, IMHO. And that's fine. He will change. The moment he has a car that can win a championship, he will change his methods. Verstappen is proof. But please, please do not use this race to call RUS a 'respectfully driving' racer. No.

George clashes with barriers and fences, but Lewis clashes with others (for example, in Qatar and Miami). Facts.

I would love to know how many times George has clashed with barriers and fences in 6 years of his F1 career. I would love to take that and compare with some of the most successful drivers' first 6 years in F1, that are on the grid currently.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

OMG, one race where RUS keeps his nose clean and doesn't pull off a torpedo terrorism move, and you come to this conclusion. Nothing against him, that is his 'all or nothing style' , each driver has their own ; but to call RUS a 'clean racer' is the overstatement of the century. He is a faster, more intelligent version of Magnussen, IMHO. And that's fine. He will change. The moment he has a car that can win a championship, he will change his methods. Verstappen is proof. But please, please do not use this race to call RUS a 'respectfully driving' racer. No.

George clashes with barriers and fences, but Lewis clashes with others (for example, in Qatar and Miami). Facts.

I would love to know how many times George has clashed with barriers and fences in 6 years of his F1 career. I would love to take that and compare with some of the most successful drivers' first 6 years in F1, that are on the grid currently.

For example, in Singapore and Australia, those are instances where he pushes too hard at the end of the race, and there isn't another car involved. But with Lewis, there are always two in the tango.

[DGP123]

I would love to know how many times George has clashed with barriers and fences in 6 years of his F1 career.

Russell crashes consist of Imola behind the SC in the Williams, Canada in the Merc, Australia with Alonso, Silverstone with Zhou, Max in Vegas, Sainz in Austin first lap, Lewis in Qatar, Bottas in Imola, and the poor Singapore last lap crash into the barrier. That’s off the top of my head