2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[peewon]

I am always a bit sceptical, hearing such things. Last year they told basically the same things. But after all it’s simple, you are able to make the car faster or not. This whole „laying foundation for 2025“ is just another Blabla to buy time.

If they are on the right path, this shouldn't be a problem. They may take a step back for a couple of races but should be back to the same level or better after that, if not immediately. McLaren had an immediate jump when the brought their new concept. This is all conditional on it being the right solution though.

[Rodak]

Even if the current regulations were continued for another 5 years, I would at best put it at 50% chance for AMR to win multiple races consistently let alone title. Why? Because we just havent seen them do it. Let alone the fact that the new regs are mainly about the PU,. Did people forget that Newey was at RB from 2014-2020 and RB didnt come close to winning a title.

Well considering there are 10 teams, all things being equal, there is a 1 in 10 chance of winning
any 1 race(10% or 0.1). Chances of winning two in a row are (0.1)*(0.1) = .01 or 1%.

This isn't a lottery, this is racing and all things are NOT equal. Having said that, there will be two or three teams who get it right and the chances of two in a row increase dramatically; unfortunately I don't think it will be Aston Martin will be in that mix but fingers crossed.

[Rikrikrik]

looks the same front wing or not? aparently, no new front wing.

[diffuser]

Even if the current regulations were continued for another 5 years, I would at best put it at 50% chance for AMR to win multiple races consistently let alone title. Why? Because we just havent seen them do it. Let alone the fact that the new regs are mainly about the PU,. Did people forget that Newey was at RB from 2014-2020 and RB didnt come close to winning a title.

Well considering there are 10 teams, all things being equal, there is a 1 in 10 chance of winning
any 1 race(10% or 0.1). Chances of winning two in a row are (0.1)*(0.1) = .01 or 1%.

This isn't a lottery, this is racing and all things are NOT equal. Having said that, there will be two or three teams who get it right and the chances of two in a row increase dramatically; unfortunately I don't think it will be Aston Martin will be in that mix but fingers crossed.

It does put his 50% in perspective, doesn't it?

[-wkst-]

I am always a bit sceptical, hearing such things. Last year they told basically the same things. But after all it’s simple, you are able to make the car faster or not. This whole „laying foundation for 2025“ is just another Blabla to buy time.

If they are on the right path, this shouldn't be a problem. They may take a step back for a couple of races but should be back to the same level or better after that, if not immediately. McLaren had an immediate jump when the brought their new concept. This is all conditional on it being the right solution though.

Isn't that what they already told with the Budapest updates (before they wanted to attack with a new package in the autumn)? In fact they recognized for example that the boot out Imola floor, which was blamed for the poor balance and so on, made his comeback in the autumn races.

I am not so convinced that the current personal at the factory knows exactly what route to go.

[KimiRai]

I am not so convinced that the current personal at the factory knows exactly what route to go.

McLaren simulator driver Daniel Juncadella said Newey doesn't understand what Aston is doing either

Anyways let's see how Austin goes.

[Ashwinv16]

looks the same front wing or not? aparently, no new front wing.
https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/i ... 148942.jpg

No need, since Hungary Front has been rock solid and the rear is fine since Spa. The middle is the issue, that's where the pace comes form.

[FNTC]

I would assume they would want to have as flexible front wing as MCL and Merc, but maybe they changed the elements while keeping the same shape, or maybe it's unchanged.

[RedNEO]

looks the same front wing or not? aparently, no new front wing.
https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/i ... 148942.jpg

Do they normally display new stuff out on a Thursday? I thought it normally drops Friday

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

looks the same front wing or not? aparently, no new front wing.
https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/i ... 148942.jpg

Do they normally display new stuff out on a Thursday? I thought it normally drops Friday

What you don't have ,can't drop out:)

[peewon]

I am always a bit sceptical, hearing such things. Last year they told basically the same things. But after all it’s simple, you are able to make the car faster or not. This whole „laying foundation for 2025“ is just another Blabla to buy time.

If they are on the right path, this shouldn't be a problem. They may take a step back for a couple of races but should be back to the same level or better after that, if not immediately. McLaren had an immediate jump when the brought their new concept. This is all conditional on it being the right solution though.

Isn't that what they already told with the Budapest updates (before they wanted to attack with a new package in the autumn)? In fact they recognized for example that the boot out Imola floor, which was blamed for the poor balance and so on, made his comeback in the autumn races.

I am not so convinced that the current personal at the factory knows exactly what route to go.

They're not losing much anyway by trying. Maybe some secret inputs have been incorporated this time.

[RedNEO]

I am not so convinced that the current personal at the factory knows exactly what route to go.

McLaren simulator driver Daniel Juncadella said Newey doesn't understand what Aston is doing either

Anyways let's see how Austin goes.

Why would a simulator driver for a different team know anything about what Newey thinks lol. Anyway Newey saw enough potential to choose Aston Martin over McLaren

[diffuser]

looks the same front wing or not? aparently, no new front wing.
https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/i ... 148942.jpg

Do they normally display new stuff out on a Thursday? I thought it normally drops Friday

He posted that picture on Wednesday 8:30ish pm Texas time. So not even Thursday.

[KimiRai]

Austin package includes a revised floor. New parts "not a gamechanger" according to Alonso

https://formu1a.uno/en/alonso-us-gp-upg ... e-changer/

Aston’s Austin package includes a revised floor, and is seen as in part as a preview of the direction that the team is taking for 2025.

“I don’t think expectations can be too high,” he said. “We have some new parts, but I don’t think that it will change the full picture.

“I think this part of the championship, the upgrades are quite small. I think all of them are just also in line to what the 2025 car is looking at the tunnel. So it’s more a half-test, half-performance, introduction.

“And for us, it’s important as keeping the good understanding of the car that I think we started to have after Budapest, and that’s probably the main target for this weekend, try to have a good correlation, and see that all the new parts are doing what we expect from them.

“In terms of performance and positions in qualifying of the race, I don’t think that is going to be a game changer for anybody.”

Alonso added: “After Budapest, we understood some of the directions that we took in the past, and why it was not correlated properly on track, and that package was a good sign on what we wanted to achieve, and this is just a continuation of that.

[Rikrikrik]

Austin package includes a revised floor. New parts "not a gamechanger" according to Alonso

https://formu1a.uno/en/alonso-us-gp-upg ... e-changer/

Aston’s Austin package includes a revised floor, and is seen as in part as a preview of the direction that the team is taking for 2025.

“I don’t think expectations can be too high,” he said. “We have some new parts, but I don’t think that it will change the full picture.

“I think this part of the championship, the upgrades are quite small. I think all of them are just also in line to what the 2025 car is looking at the tunnel. So it’s more a half-test, half-performance, introduction.

“And for us, it’s important as keeping the good understanding of the car that I think we started to have after Budapest, and that’s probably the main target for this weekend, try to have a good correlation, and see that all the new parts are doing what we expect from them.

“In terms of performance and positions in qualifying of the race, I don’t think that is going to be a game changer for anybody.”

Alonso added: “After Budapest, we understood some of the directions that we took in the past, and why it was not correlated properly on track, and that package was a good sign on what we wanted to achieve, and this is just a continuation of that.

For us, all we can do is pray for that be true this time.