2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[basti313]

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At the end of 2018, Tsunoda was announced to join Jenzer Motorsport in the newly announced FIA Formula 3 Championship.
Before that he was racing in the Japanese F4.
One day Helmut Marko was watching Yuki at a race in F3 and then he became a RB junior driver, so RB payed everything for Yuki.
Tsunoda also competed for Motopark in the Euroformula Open Championship, following the cancellation of Formula European Masters.

Helmut Marko put Yuki in the AlphaTauri and NO he wasn't cheap and No Honda didn't pay his salary!

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yuki is from Honda school no doubt that's why Honda management are pushing for him to be in a redbull .Honda shouldn't be in these position begging and hoping that redbull make a star out of their home driver.they made some very stupid decision in the past and they are paying for them. they are a large organization they should have weathered the financial crises storm.they strengthened their competitor merc. greed got the better of them.
as to who paid for yuki European junior series no one has the paper to prove its just speculation

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Do you know what it means for a driver when he becomes a member of a teams junior team?
Everything will be paid for is one of the pleasant side effects.

I think you are completely missing the point, that Yuki is part of the Honda Formula Dream Project since 2016. So, much before RedBull could pay for anything, his seat was paid by Honda. This program was criticized, because it did nothing else but paying the seat. If your are good every year more for a higher class, but no real "mentoring" as Marco does.
In 2019 they announced to change to an additional mentoring program, which...surprise, surprise...ties with multiple drivers becoming RedBull Juniors by then. There was no mentor installed by Honda, they used RedBull for this.

So...we do not know the contracts, but do you think the Honda money just drops away, once they announce to improve the program? In my terms this rather means more money...

[Wouter]

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yuki is from Honda school no doubt that's why Honda management are pushing for him to be in a redbull .Honda shouldn't be in these position begging and hoping that redbull make a star out of their home driver.they made some very stupid decision in the past and they are paying for them. they are a large organization they should have weathered the financial crises storm.they strengthened their competitor merc. greed got the better of them.
as to who paid for yuki European junior series no one has the paper to prove its just speculation

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Do you know what it means for a driver when he becomes a member of a teams junior team?
Everything will be paid for is one of the pleasant side effects.

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I think you are completely missing the point, that Yuki is part of the Honda Formula Dream Project since 2016. So, much before RedBull could pay for anything, his seat was paid by Honda. This program was criticized, because it did nothing else but paying the seat. If your are good every year more for a higher class, but no real "mentoring" as Marco does.
In 2019 they announced to change to an additional mentoring program, which...surprise, surprise...ties with multiple drivers becoming RedBull Juniors by then. There was no mentor installed by Honda, they used RedBull for this.

So...we do not know the contracts, but do you think the Honda money just drops away, once they announce to improve the program? In my terms this rather means more money...

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You were asking if Honda is paying his salary, didn't you?

NO, Honda isn't paying his salary. Red Bull is paying his salary.
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Was there anything in the engine contract or was he cheap? Is Honda paying his salary?

If it is the salary, nothing changes, Yuki will stay in the RB maybe even for 26. The biggest issue is that he can not go to Aston.

[ispano6]

I think you are completely missing the point, that Yuki is part of the Honda Formula Dream Project since 2016. So, much before RedBull could pay for anything, his seat was paid by Honda. This program was criticized, because it did nothing else but paying the seat. If your are good every year more for a higher class, but no real "mentoring" as Marco does.
In 2019 they announced to change to an additional mentoring program, which...surprise, surprise...ties with multiple drivers becoming RedBull Juniors by then. There was no mentor installed by Honda, they used RedBull for this.

So...we do not know the contracts, but do you think the Honda money just drops away, once they announce to improve the program? In my terms this rather means more money...

There are plenty of fast drivers in HFD program that could match European talent. The did hire Takuma Sato and other professional drivers but once you're in F1 and Red Bull jr, you go through all the physical training Yuki did. Liam probably has started on that regimen but he's still got a kid's body. Let's see if RB favor Liam and simply give him better set up and strategy.

[Wouter]

Translated by DeepL:

Ralf Bach | October 23, 2024, 10:39 a.m.

Sergio Perez has to worry about his Red Bull cockpit just before his home race in Mexico.

Just before his home race, there is a big question mark about the future of the Mexican national hero. For Sergio Perez (34), the Mexican GP this weekend is the first of five races in which he has to prove that he is the one who deserves the place next to world champion Max Verstappen in the Red Bull next year.

But after the US GP in Austin, which once again did not go well for Perez, a lot of things look like a farewell. Reason: While Verstappen took another step towards his fourth world championship title with his second place, Perez fell behind in the same car. In seventh place, a frightening 40 seconds behind his teammate, the Mexican only collected good arguments to relieve him of his suffering.

The fact that he has a contract for 2025 doesn't help him. Red Bull chief advisor Helmut Marko (81) makes it clear again on
F1-Insider.com: "Perez may have a contract, but Formula 1 is a performance-based society. If the performance isn't right,
contracts are of no use.
At the end of the season, we will sit down together and then decide who is the best teammate for Verstappen at Red Bull."

One thing is certain: things are looking particularly bleak for Perez. There are already persistent rumors that he will announce his retirement after his race in Mexico. He has so far denied this. Red Bull also knows nothing about it. "I don't know anything about any thoughts of retirement," explains Helmut Marko. Despite Lawson's fantastic performance in Austin, he stresses: "Nothing has been decided yet."

https://f1-insider.com/formel-1-liam-la ... pit-64749/

[basti313]

You were asking if Honda is paying his salary, didn't you?

NO, Honda isn't paying his salary. Red Bull is paying his salary.

Come on...we are not, in fact, just playing with words here, right?
You can in the same way claim, that RedBull is paying the salary of Perez, of course...if you want to play with words.
But does it play any role? My point is, that the money in the end comes from someone else. In case of Perez from Mexico, on case of Yuki from Japan. Which is at least an interesting similarity.

Liam probably has started on that regimen but he's still got a kid's body.

I would not read anything into this. People react different on training. It would be surprising and a quick end to his career if he is not at 100% after this much prep time he had.

Let's see if RB favor Liam and simply give him better set up and strategy.

Paranoia? Why should any team compromise, especially if they want to have a genuine shoot out?
In the end it is mostly mistaken here...of course the driver needs to bring proper feedback and makes his own bed in Q...bad Q, Bad strategy often goes together as they need to do something different.

[Rikhart]

I made a post some days ago, to me the wing seems to flex a lot more now, and it would make sense because of new floor.

Videos do not work for me in that post. When I look at f1tv footage I don’t see more flex. Also I don’t see the full wing bending down like with McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes.

viewtopic.php?p=1252957#p1252957

I think you can say this is a new, much flexier, wing. At least as much as Ferrari, Mclaren and Mercedes is even more extreme.

[Wouter]

https://f1-insider.com/formel-1-piastri ... sse-64754/

Translated by DeepL:

Red Bull has Oscar Piastri in its sights

Red Bull is apparently thinking about Oscar Piastri. Is a spectacular change on the horizon?

Ralf Bach | October 24, 2024, 8:49 a.m.

Is it one of the usual mind games before the Mexican GP this weekend, the fifth-to-last race of the Formula 1 World Championship? Or is Red Bull serious?

F1 insider learned: Red Bull has the Australian McLaren young star Oscar Piastri (23) in its sights. The idea: He should drive alongside superstar Max Verstappen (27) in 2026 or replace the Dutchman if he moves to Mercedes or Aston Martin. Mercedes in particular seems to be a very realistic option for the three-time world champion, who has a good chance of winning his fourth title in a row this year.

Piastri is managed by ex-Red Bull driver Mark Webber

One thing is certain: Piastri's compatriot and manager Mark Webber often talks to his ex-team boss Christian Horner. The two are not only friends, they also owned a Formula 3 team together during Webber's active days.

Red Bull Motorsport boss Helmut Marko (81), currently on a beach holiday in Mexico, confirmed to F1 Insider: "Let's put it this way: Mark Webber is looking for intensive conversation."

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Piastri to replace Max seems wise.

[Sergej]

Sparky68 (an employee from Red Bull who sometimes writes on autosport forum) wrote that "Think we are now heading in the right direction"; let's hope they are right this time, would be nice to end the season with another win in the remaining races, even though I would happily settle for the title alone as well

[Wouter]

How Much Practice Goes Into A Pit Stop? | Talking Bull

24 October. Nic is joined by Calum Nicholas, Jon Caller and Sam Vincent from the Oracle Red Bull Racing pit crew to find out what it takes to win the coveted DHL Fastest Pit Stop Award. Just how much practice do they put in off-season, and how do each of them prepare for a pit stop on race day?

She’ll also hear how stunts like changing tyres in the dark - or in zero gravity! - can help the team develop their skills, and what it takes to earn a place on this incredible team.

[Vettel165]

Sparky68 (an employee from Red Bull who sometimes writes on autosport forum) wrote that "Think we are now heading in the right direction"; let's hope they are right this time, would be nice to end the season with another win in the remaining races, even though I would happily settle for the title alone as well

Fingers crossed.

[Wouter]

Sparky68 (an employee from Red Bull who sometimes writes on autosport forum) wrote that "Think we are now heading in the right direction"; let's hope they are right this time, would be nice to end the season with another win in the remaining races, even though I would happily settle for the title alone as well

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Fingers crossed.

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Rudy van Buren, who is the best simracer in the world and who works for Red Bull in Milton Keynes every week,
said exactly the same last weekend on Dutch TV.
He does the setup for Checo's, Yuki's, Liam's and Max his car every week and Friday night after de FP sessions..

[Paa]

Was it confirmed or established that if Red Bull made the car better or worse with the setup changes from sprint to race?
I mean it's clear that it has been worse relative to the competition. But I don't think I saw any analysis about whether Red Bull improved to it' former self, and just the others improved even more? Or the new setup made them slower?

[Joel709]

Was it confirmed or established that if Red Bull made the car better or worse with the setup changes from sprint to race?
I mean it's clear that it has been worse relative to the competition. But I don't think I saw any analysis about whether Red Bull improved to it' former self, and just the others improved even more? Or the new setup made them slower?

They made the change to protect the rears as this was indicating during the sprint to be a problem, however it also allowed in some understeer which doesn’t suit Max so it was a hard one to tell. He could push more on his sprint set up but he would lose tyre delta quicker. Consequences of the changes on a sprint weekend unfortunately.

I imagine they will be able to get a good dial of things here with 3 practices however, the same is said for all teams

[ispano6]

You were asking if Honda is paying his salary, didn't you?

NO, Honda isn't paying his salary. Red Bull is paying his salary.

Come on...we are not, in fact, just playing with words here, right?
You can in the same way claim, that RedBull is paying the salary of Perez, of course...if you want to play with words.
But does it play any role? My point is, that the money in the end comes from someone else. In case of Perez from Mexico, on case of Yuki from Japan. Which is at least an interesting similarity.

Liam probably has started on that regimen but he's still got a kid's body.

I would not read anything into this. People react different on training. It would be surprising and a quick end to his career if he is not at 100% after this much prep time he had.

Let's see if RB favor Liam and simply give him better set up and strategy.

Paranoia? Why should any team compromise, especially if they want to have a genuine shoot out?
In the end it is mostly mistaken here...of course the driver needs to bring proper feedback and makes his own bed in Q...bad Q, Bad strategy often goes together as they need to do something different.

Paranoia? More like skepticism and doubt. The driver market is all about favoritism and judged by the body language in the paddock this past weekend you can tell there are a lot of unhappy drivers up and down the grid that are unhappy with their situation even if they have a seat for next year!