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Formu1a Uno reports that Lawson will partner Verstappen next season

Red Bull is negotiating the exit of Perez, who can count on a very significant penalty. Monday shareholder meeting. The other choices have already been made: Lawson would be Verstappen's teammate, Hadjar in Racing Bulls

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I've read the whole article and nowhere is mentioned "Lawson would be Verstappen's teammate, Hadjar in Racing Bulls".

https://autoracer.it/it/lawson-mi-sento ... mi-stimola

Indeed. But the journalist themself is saying it in the tweet.. and they represent formu1a uno.

Fwiw Erik van Haren also reports that Lawson is the one in pole to take the red bull seat

[Paa]

Were the long runs more promising than qualy pace?

[ME4ME]

Can't really be bothered about this season anymore, not the WCC nor the VER vs RUS distraction. But I absolutely cannot wait for Perez to finally get the axe. IMO they should go for Tsunoda but I don't mind either way. Just need a stop to milking the dead cow.

[venkyhere]

Were the long runs more promising than qualy pace?

I am afraid no. Car looks bad, monza bad. Or more, maybe.

[napoleon1981]

On another note, did they not go for quick laps, or is this really what the car has in this track? Didn't watch FP2, just looked at timing.

The car was not turning. Max did a lot of work trying to dial that out but doesn't look like they found a solution in the session. I'm sure they will be faster tomorrow.

Seems like a typical RB friday for this year. Running underpowered with a car that has poor balance. Sometimes they figure it out overnight, sometimes not. There must be some correlation issues, as the car rarely works out of the box.

[Rodak]

Why y'all replying to spamming troll?

This x1000.

x100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

This is a technical site, so 10^44 (or whatever)!!!!

[TNTHead]

On another note, did they not go for quick laps, or is this really what the car has in this track? Didn't watch FP2, just looked at timing.

The car was not turning. Max did a lot of work trying to dial that out but doesn't look like they found a solution in the session. I'm sure they will be faster tomorrow.

Seems like a typical RB friday for this year. Running underpowered with a car that has poor balance. Sometimes they figure it out overnight, sometimes not. There must be some correlation issues, as the car rarely works out of the box.

I really don't understand it, why for instance couldn't they start with the Qatar setup and work from there, or as that a stupid thought. Are there may be track specific adjustments needed that shifted the handling out of the working range? Then the setup is extremely sensitive to minor changes.

[FittingMechanics]

On another note, did they not go for quick laps, or is this really what the car has in this track? Didn't watch FP2, just looked at timing.

The car was not turning. Max did a lot of work trying to dial that out but doesn't look like they found a solution in the session. I'm sure they will be faster tomorrow.

Seems like a typical RB friday for this year. Running underpowered with a car that has poor balance. Sometimes they figure it out overnight, sometimes not. There must be some correlation issues, as the car rarely works out of the box.

Yeah, looks like they have big issues in predicting what setup will work on the car.

[PapayaFan481]

Facts are not spam or trolling.

But I guess when you're defending a bully....what else should we expect

[PapayaFan481]

My point, I'll state again for clarity, is that GR is intentionally (I think injudiciously) adding LH driving scenario to his own limited "beef" with MV.
Claiming a clearer than clean spring water record for LH, which would be true i believe, if you were to dismiss his notable ability to punt a direct championship challenger out of a race. Both Rosberg, for which he was sanctioned in his own team, and Verstappen.
This to invoke, by proxy, events that GR has nothing to do with, in now rolling out a historical dislike to "enforce" some sort of action in control of Verstappen currently.

If you can't read and absorb the context of that, in relevance to current situation, there's no real debate in any sensible way to be located here.

Yes, condescending intentionally, at least you can spell that. You've not taken the point I've put in debate to further discuss it. Merely a personal perspective of interaction to me, that's not of interest in this thread, to anyone.

GR is setting himself as police, lawyer, judge etc against Verstappen, then moaning about the interaction and language used. A little like you are too.

In a court of law, lawyers will bring in previous behaviour to build a picture of the character of a person.

That is what George is doing here. Showing a pattern of actions that is indicative of the behaviour of a bully.

Actually you don't get to just bring in whatever evidence you like to a court room. Things that are not directly relevant to the case but could be perceived as prejudicial are often not allowed, and for good reason. You are trying to ajudicate a specific situation, if both sides are just going to bring in a laundry list of other situations trying to smear the character of the other side that is not conducive to justice in the specific case that is being decided. You can smear George too. Remember what his first instinct was when he caused a super dangerous crash with Valtteri at Imola? He went up to Valtteri as he was in the car, shouted in his face, and slapped him in the head, after a high G crash. Is it a pattern of behaviour with George that he causes dangerous situations and blames the other side, tries to get them penalised? Could be perceived that way.

That's why you don't bring in other irrelevant situations if you aren't trying to character assassinate.

Actually, since you want to take that tone, they have pretrial motions where what is relevant is adjudicated by the judge, in a criminal case and in a civil case the rules are not as tight.

Remind me which driver got community service for assaulting Ocon in the pits in Brazil? I know it wasn't George. Remind me. Which driver got punished for not being able to control his language in a press conference and then sulked like a petulant child? Remind me which driver can't keep to a delta and then, when punished for breaking the rule tries to deflect by claiming another driver was out of line?

[langedweil]

In a court of law, lawyers will bring in previous behaviour to build a picture of the character of a person.

That is what George is doing here. Showing a pattern of actions that is indicative of the behaviour of a bully.

Actually you don't get to just bring in whatever evidence you like to a court room. Things that are not directly relevant to the case but could be perceived as prejudicial are often not allowed, and for good reason. You are trying to ajudicate a specific situation, if both sides are just going to bring in a laundry list of other situations trying to smear the character of the other side that is not conducive to justice in the specific case that is being decided. You can smear George too. Remember what his first instinct was when he caused a super dangerous crash with Valtteri at Imola? He went up to Valtteri as he was in the car, shouted in his face, and slapped him in the head, after a high G crash. Is it a pattern of behaviour with George that he causes dangerous situations and blames the other side, tries to get them penalised? Could be perceived that way.

That's why you don't bring in other irrelevant situations if you aren't trying to character assassinate.

Actually, since you want to take that tone, they have pretrial motions where what is relevant is adjudicated by the judge, in a criminal case and in a civil case the rules are not as tight.

Remind me which driver got community service for assaulting Ocon in the pits in Brazil? I know it wasn't George. Remind me. Which driver got punished for not being able to control his language in a press conference and then sulked like a petulant child? Remind me which driver can't keep to a delta and then, when punished for breaking the rule tries to deflect by claiming another driver was out of line?

You're out of coffee, or what ?

[DChemTech]

Remind me which driver got community service for assaulting Ocon in the pits in Brazil? I know it wasn't George.

Which was exactly a situation as it was now: yes, Max' response was that of a blunt bully. But that doesn't mean the other party was innocent. Just like George now, Ocon was acting like some golden boy and managed to provoke Max (then more understandably than now), making Max the bully - whilst their own behavior was just as much bullying, just not of the blunt kind.

[Espresso]

Facts are not spam or trolling.

But I guess when you're defending a bully....what else should we expect

ASD? Fine, but don’t use it as an excuse.
Spamming, trolling and hijacking a thread a big no no. Then it’s you who becomes the bully.
Please show respect and tone down the remarks. You have shown in another thread you are fully capable to respond instead fighting.

[PapayaFan481]

Facts are not spam or trolling.

But I guess when you're defending a bully....what else should we expect

ASD? Fine, but don’t use it as an excuse.
Spamming, trolling and hijacking a thread a big no no. Then it’s you who becomes the bully.
Please show respect and tone down the remarks. You have shown in another thread you are fully capable to respond instead fighting.

I showed respect and I don't see how facts can be toned down. I'm the one being accused of being a troll and spamming when I'm trying to highlight the bias in people's claims.

I didn't hijack anything, I responded to posts that were already made and then defended myself when attacked.

[PapayaFan481]

Actually you don't get to just bring in whatever evidence you like to a court room. Things that are not directly relevant to the case but could be perceived as prejudicial are often not allowed, and for good reason. You are trying to ajudicate a specific situation, if both sides are just going to bring in a laundry list of other situations trying to smear the character of the other side that is not conducive to justice in the specific case that is being decided. You can smear George too. Remember what his first instinct was when he caused a super dangerous crash with Valtteri at Imola? He went up to Valtteri as he was in the car, shouted in his face, and slapped him in the head, after a high G crash. Is it a pattern of behaviour with George that he causes dangerous situations and blames the other side, tries to get them penalised? Could be perceived that way.

That's why you don't bring in other irrelevant situations if you aren't trying to character assassinate.

Actually, since you want to take that tone, they have pretrial motions where what is relevant is adjudicated by the judge, in a criminal case and in a civil case the rules are not as tight.

Remind me which driver got community service for assaulting Ocon in the pits in Brazil? I know it wasn't George. Remind me. Which driver got punished for not being able to control his language in a press conference and then sulked like a petulant child? Remind me which driver can't keep to a delta and then, when punished for breaking the rule tries to deflect by claiming another driver was out of line?

You're out of coffee, or what ?

I don't drink coffee.