2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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TyreSlip wrote:
17 May 2025, 23:05
Seanspeed wrote:
17 May 2025, 22:57
KimiRai wrote:
17 May 2025, 18:40
Alonso says they probably aren't fifth fastest and could lose positions tomorrow.
Any kind of top 10 finish on merit would be a huge improvement on their form.

Newey may be focused on 2026, but there's no way he wasn't at least being consulted on their upgrade direction. It's just impossible to believe that Aston having their first successful upgrade package in basically years after Newey joins is just a pure coincidence.
If we're being honest, it most likely would have been another Q2 exit for Aston Martin without the medium tyre strategy.
Nah, they were legitimately fast even on the C6. The medium gave them the edge to perhaps gain a few extra spots in Q3, but the difference was probably only a tenth and a half, two tenths at most. It wasn't a huge advantage.

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FNTC wrote:
17 May 2025, 23:07
Yeah, this seems to have been a rare strategy win by Aston. The other teams might have gone faster too on the mediums. But difficult to know. But the updates that were tested in the new wind tunnel, and with some lunchtime tips from Newey, defintely didn't hurt.
At the very least, they weren't downgrades this time. Although the car was twitchy in mid-corners, the car could at least exit corners without losing traction.

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The upgrades really worked this time. This means the team finally understood its problems and future developments should bring them more speed. It was a great effort from the team and drivers. That's amazingly positive, in Miami they were dead last.

We should be careful thinking points will be easy from now on though. The car is still terrible in slow speed corners and this circuit flattered the Aston. Expect to struggle in Monaco, plus AFAIK Barcelona upgrades are only to adjust the wings to the new FIA TD.

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TyreSlip wrote:
17 May 2025, 23:11
FNTC wrote:
17 May 2025, 23:07
Yeah, this seems to have been a rare strategy win by Aston. The other teams might have gone faster too on the mediums. But difficult to know. But the updates that were tested in the new wind tunnel, and with some lunchtime tips from Newey, defintely didn't hurt.
At the very least, they weren't downgrades this time. Although the car was twitchy in mid-corners, the car could at least exit corners without losing traction.
I wouldn't say that the car was 'twitchy' in mid-corners, Alonso had one correction in turn 7 otherwise it was pretty stable in the corners when it comes to the steering input. Turns 14 and 15 were very tricky (like for most of the teams) Alonso took it VERY slow, on the onboard it looks like he didn't want to use any of the yellow kerb inside of turn 15 but he lost a few tens there because of that. Looks like car really doesn't like to take any kerbs

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from the stats posted on sky tv alonso was 5th fastest in slow corners and i believe second fastest on the straights (i could be off on that one). i havent seen any true stats but if thats correct its a big change from last race. and pretty different from before the upgrades. lets see what happens over the next few weeks.

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wiktor977 wrote:
17 May 2025, 23:31
TyreSlip wrote:
17 May 2025, 23:11
FNTC wrote:
17 May 2025, 23:07
Yeah, this seems to have been a rare strategy win by Aston. The other teams might have gone faster too on the mediums. But difficult to know. But the updates that were tested in the new wind tunnel, and with some lunchtime tips from Newey, defintely didn't hurt.
At the very least, they weren't downgrades this time. Although the car was twitchy in mid-corners, the car could at least exit corners without losing traction.
I wouldn't say that the car was 'twitchy' in mid-corners, Alonso had one correction in turn 7 otherwise it was pretty stable in the corners when it comes to the steering input. Turns 14 and 15 were very tricky (like for most of the teams) Alonso took it VERY slow, on the onboard it looks like he didn't want to use any of the yellow kerb inside of turn 15 but he lost a few tens there because of that. Looks like car really doesn't like to take any kerbs
The thing is before the car was twitchy and it was traveling much slower. So even if it is still a little twitchy, it's traveling significantly faster through corners that it did prior to the upgrade.

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Seanspeed wrote:
17 May 2025, 23:09
TyreSlip wrote:
17 May 2025, 23:05
Seanspeed wrote:
17 May 2025, 22:57

Any kind of top 10 finish on merit would be a huge improvement on their form.

Newey may be focused on 2026, but there's no way he wasn't at least being consulted on their upgrade direction. It's just impossible to believe that Aston having their first successful upgrade package in basically years after Newey joins is just a pure coincidence.
If we're being honest, it most likely would have been another Q2 exit for Aston Martin without the medium tyre strategy.
Nah, they were legitimately fast even on the C6. The medium gave them the edge to perhaps gain a few extra spots in Q3, but the difference was probably only a tenth and a half, two tenths at most. It wasn't a huge advantage.
They were only in Q1 fast on the C6. The picture is always a bit misleading because many others used a worn set in the 2nd attempt of Q1 (AMR used a new C6 set), or the first try in Q2. AMR used a new set C6, many opponents around (not the top teams) a used set. Neither ALO nor STR were able to drive a 15.5 with the C6 (ALB P10 in Q2). They are not that fast as it looks, but took advantage of the better medium, which gave them not only faster times, but also fresh tyres for all runs, beside STR 2nd try Q3.

Regarding Newey and the updates. This package was developed at a time a certain Newey wasn’t even employee of the company. Don’t know if the updates work that great, but credit to the guys who developed it. It was just mapped in the new tunnel at the time Newey was already around. But it’s neither correct nor right to say that Newey had his input on the development.

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TyreSlip wrote:
17 May 2025, 21:58
Not a bad lap considering Alonso only had one practice session to dial in the setup while Stroll had three.
This. Giving Alonso 1 session before qualifying when they had the parts to give it to him a day earlier in FP2 was unbelievable. In the words of Hamilton “this is being manipulated man” and it’s been happening all year. Let’s hope the team is fair going forwards because this sort of thing is just plain dumb all in the name of artificially boosting stroll.

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krich wrote:
17 May 2025, 18:35
KimiRai wrote:
17 May 2025, 18:23
Blandin said a future package cannot be ruled out. But two weeks from now in Barcelona seems too early.
I dont know where i read yesterday that Barcelona package was already in development in NWT for months for new flexi wing regs
Well this package was sitting around since February but who know how much they modified the floor since February in the NWT.

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Both brakes were on fire. Feel like alonso has issues

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Whatn anti climax to super Saturday :o

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The race reflecting the expected pace. They may score one point or will be close

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Well, I simply don’t understand why they didn’t split. It’s a 1 stopper.

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I mean the fact that we can actually get a point on puré pace. Is a big improvement. Compared to past weeks. But I do think something with alonsos brakes. The mediums didn’t look bad. So I don’t know why they pitted

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Not even going to get points if the people in front make the 1 stop work...