Aston Martin Honda 2026 speculation etc

[diffuser]

Not true. Merc had better in race deployment from 2023 onwards.

obviously he disagrees, what proof you have of this ?

Seeing the Honda derate more than the Merc for years, especially on high speed tracks.

Like Vegas and Monza that RBR won in 2025?

Anyways I think it's gonna be good enough to win races. if there is a difference between Merc and Honda PU as a whole in 2025, it wasn't more than .05%.

Not a huge fan of that guy. Stuff he says isn't anything new. Stuff like Honda had to completely repackage the PU to fit int the chassis is a little exaggerated. The rules really force the positioning of most parts. All he could really ask is positioning of the radiator/intercooler inlets/outlets and the air intake in the airbox. Even then the compressor has to be near the rear of the ICE. I think the AM will be making the intercooler, I know they make the radiators.

[Badger]

obviously he disagrees, what proof you have of this ?

Seeing the Honda derate more than the Merc for years, especially on high speed tracks.

Like Vegas and Monza that RBR won in 2025?

Anyways I think it's gonna be good enough to win races. if there is a difference between Merc and Honda PU as a whole in 2025, it wasn't more than .05%.

Not a huge fan of that guy. Stuff he says isn't anything new. Stuff like Honda had to completely repackage the PU to fit int the chassis is a little exaggerated. The rules really force the positioning of most parts. All he could really ask is positioning of the radiator/intercooler inlets/outlets and the air intake in the airbox. Even then the compressor has to be near the rear of the ICE. I think the AM will be making the intercooler, I know they make the radiators.

Yes, the Honda deployment was particularly bad in Vegas.

You can clearly see that the Honda derates much earlier than the Mercedes. It's consistent throughout the race albeit slightly better in the second stint.

[diffuser]

Seeing the Honda derate more than the Merc for years, especially on high speed tracks.

Like Vegas and Monza that RBR won in 2025?

Anyways I think it's gonna be good enough to win races. if there is a difference between Merc and Honda PU as a whole in 2025, it wasn't more than .05%.

Not a huge fan of that guy. Stuff he says isn't anything new. Stuff like Honda had to completely repackage the PU to fit int the chassis is a little exaggerated. The rules really force the positioning of most parts. All he could really ask is positioning of the radiator/intercooler inlets/outlets and the air intake in the airbox. Even then the compressor has to be near the rear of the ICE. I think the AM will be making the intercooler, I know they make the radiators.

Yes, the Honda deployment was particularly bad in Vegas.
https://i.postimg.cc/7PScMVB9/derate.png
You can clearly see that the Honda derates much earlier than the Mercedes. It's consistent throughout the race albeit slightly better in the second stint.

That's funny, Max pulls away, his engineer get on the radio on lap 11 and says "Max your gap is 1.7 seconds!". Max slows down to help Russell tow to fight Norris and you choose that lap. Lot of cat and mouse going on in races, switching of power modes, etc. Plus When you're leading the race there is no slip stream ... look at lap 44 when Max is closer to col. You can see Max is deploying in different places.

[AhmerBaig]

Alonso confident about 2026

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/alonso-p ... 2026-claim

[Badger]

Like Vegas and Monza that RBR won in 2025?

Anyways I think it's gonna be good enough to win races. if there is a difference between Merc and Honda PU as a whole in 2025, it wasn't more than .05%.

Not a huge fan of that guy. Stuff he says isn't anything new. Stuff like Honda had to completely repackage the PU to fit int the chassis is a little exaggerated. The rules really force the positioning of most parts. All he could really ask is positioning of the radiator/intercooler inlets/outlets and the air intake in the airbox. Even then the compressor has to be near the rear of the ICE. I think the AM will be making the intercooler, I know they make the radiators.

Yes, the Honda deployment was particularly bad in Vegas.
https://i.postimg.cc/7PScMVB9/derate.png
You can clearly see that the Honda derates much earlier than the Mercedes. It's consistent throughout the race albeit slightly better in the second stint.

That's funny, Max pulls away, his engineer get on the radio on lap 11 and says "Max your gap is 1.7 seconds!". Max slows down to help Russell tow to fight Norris and you choose that lap. Lot of cat and mouse going on in races, switching of power modes, etc. Plus When you're leading the race there is no slip stream ... look at lap 44 when Max is closer to col. You can see Max is deploying in different places.

You can pick almost any lap in the first stint and it will look like that. Max certainly never slowed to tow anyone, rubbish.