Ferrari SF-26

[Tommy Cookers]

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All possible answers and explanations have been given.

and an impossible one - PWM

[hollus]

Agree to disagree, guys. Or get another thread.
It is OK if you really want to discuss the sources of those noises, but then please make a thread. Deletions might happen from here on.

[wuzak]

The Ferrari front wing active aero looks like it will be very low drag.

But will it work for low drag mode sections that have corners on them?

[FittingMechanics]

The Ferrari front wing active aero looks like it will be very low drag.

But will it work for low drag mode sections that have corners on them?

Straight mode will have zones where it can be used. I am pretty sure that FIA will play this very cautiously and that those zones will end before any kind of significant corner.

[mzso]

Is this the only real car we have seen that has an inwashing front wing?

Knowing Ferrari's track record it's the exact wrong direction to develop.
Yes, but there's two.

2017 regulation changes: Ferrari aerodynamically and mechanically the best car initially, just hugely underpowered against the PU of Mercedes.

2022 regulation changes: Ferrari the best car initially and at least on par with the RedBull until TD39 came.

Also, in general Ferrari has had clever car characteristics/details which have been copied regularly in many seasons.
So which track record are you talking about exactly?

This is just your rose tinted view. 2017-18 Ferrari used the cheat factor engines, with extra power, which were only made impossible by 2019, with a huge drop in performance. And this in fact just an example of a wrong direction, with the engine, that was inferior for years because of this, optimizing for the illegal developments.

In 2022 they started with an inferior concept that was abandoned. And they only bagged two easy wins because of Red Bull DNFs. And also the red Red Bull was a fair bit overweight for a while. This was also an obvious wrong direction, which they fully abandoned for Red Bull style sidepods.

Going back to the current car, at least it's easier develop a new front wing if it turns out to be the wrong direction again.

[Dream Theater]

We're definitely going to disagree, this haas video by bozzi, who always has impeccable sound quality, has the exact same noise.

You'll have to specify when you are hearing it in the Haas video. At the 4 minute mark of the F1 video you posted is definitely a drone sound.

I am an audio engineer, trust me it is Not a drone.
It is completely in sync with the engine and the car, by its pitch and its distance.
And it is also logical, this years cars have a much stronger electric motor, which is driven by PWM technology, and that makes electric motors whine, following its RPM.

I was in Fiorano, and I can tell you that this weird sound is indeed the drone. It was very noticeable and clear hearing it live.

edit: sorry, I wrote this comment before reaching the end of the "weird" sound discussion

[bluechris]

Knowing Ferrari's track record it's the exact wrong direction to develop.
Yes, but there's two.

2017 regulation changes: Ferrari aerodynamically and mechanically the best car initially, just hugely underpowered against the PU of Mercedes.

2022 regulation changes: Ferrari the best car initially and at least on par with the RedBull until TD39 came.

Also, in general Ferrari has had clever car characteristics/details which have been copied regularly in many seasons.
So which track record are you talking about exactly?

This is just your rose tinted view. 2017-18 Ferrari used the cheat factor engines, with extra power, which were only made impossible by 2019, with a huge drop in performance. And this in fact just an example of a wrong direction, with the engine, that was inferior for years because of this, optimizing for the illegal developments.

In 2022 they started with an inferior concept that was abandoned. And they only bagged two easy wins because of Red Bull DNFs. And also the red Red Bull was a fair bit overweight for a while. This was also an obvious wrong direction, which they fully abandoned for Red Bull style sidepods.

Going back to the current car, at least it's easier develop a new front wing if it turns out to be the wrong direction again.

I had asked you again i think, can you point us where is the proof of this? or you came to the thread just to annoy us? I want an official proof of this like the first wings, oil burning from MB etc that the FIA banned the previous years.