2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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Xyz22 wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 14:27
JPower wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 14:26
Xyz22 wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 14:14
https://x.com/SmilexTech/status/2031333 ... 90015?s=20
Ferrari already working on a new engine based on a different concept. The current plan is for next year but could be introduced this year if the ADUO will allow it.
The engine is not up to par, unfortunately. I legit expected the contrary, a good engine and bad aero.
SF70H regen.
I wish. The gap is much bigger this year unfortunately
Every year, we get a glimmer of hope for later in the season fix that probably won't materialise (SF25 rear suspension, SF23 rear suspension, F1-75 engine reliability fix). It really is a shame if the SF26 is going to be diminished by the PU. It is so nice having a car that is strong at low and medium speeds again.

Realistically, McL will eventually get on top of the Merc PU and shed the extra chassis weight, so I expect them to rival Merc sooner than later, which is going to make keeping the Championship within reach challenging.

It would be great if AR could do an article on the ADUO measurement/calculation to either confirm hope or kill it (if Merc can sandbag).

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Space-heat wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 15:37
Xyz22 wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 14:27
JPower wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 14:26


SF70H regen.
I wish. The gap is much bigger this year unfortunately
Every year, we get a glimmer of hope for later in the season fix that probably won't materialise (SF25 rear suspension, SF23 rear suspension, F1-75 engine reliability fix). It really is a shame if the SF26 is going to be diminished by the PU. It is so nice having a car that is strong at low and medium speeds again.

Realistically, McL will eventually get on top of the Merc PU and shed the extra chassis weight, so I expect them to rival Merc sooner than later, which is going to make keeping the Championship within reach challenging.

It would be great if AR could do an article on the ADUO measurement/calculation to either confirm hope or kill it (if Merc can sandbag).
Literally all Ferrari cars from 2021-2025 were great at low speed. Their main issues were tyre related.

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Ferrari using a “transitional” engine with no development path. Different concept is in the works but no real ETA on that

https://x.com/giulyduchessa/status/2031 ... 10610?s=46

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oh boy, they gonna now stop all the current development coz they will have new "Concept" engine isn't it... i get a sense another painfull year awaits us.. i pray its not [-o<

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Fakepivot wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 16:32
oh boy, they gonna now stop all the current development coz they will have new "Concept" engine isn't it... i get a sense another painfull year awaits us.. i pray its not [-o<
You cannot change until the engine is like Honda this season post 1st March, only reliability changes are going to be accepted.So it makes sense to invest in new engine concept for now whether its going to be more efficient

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Xyz22 wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 14:55
LM10 wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 14:44
Xyz22 wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 14:14
https://x.com/SmilexTech/status/2031333 ... 90015?s=20
Ferrari already working on a new engine based on a different concept. The current plan is for next year but could be introduced this year if the ADUO will allow it.
The engine is not up to par, unfortunately. I legit expected the contrary, a good engine and bad aero.
Isn’t every single manufacturer working on the next PU already?

The engine is good. I don’t know how people come up with the contrary just because it’s not up there with the engine of Mercedes. Even Lewis said that the Ferrari PU is strong.
The key is that they are changing the concept of the ICE completely according to the report.
Yea, but the fact they’re using a transitional PU now and will change the concept does not necessarily mean that the current PU is weak. They might have found something innovative which might only be available come next season.
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LM10 wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 17:11
Xyz22 wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 14:55
LM10 wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 14:44


Isn’t every single manufacturer working on the next PU already?

The engine is good. I don’t know how people come up with the contrary just because it’s not up there with the engine of Mercedes. Even Lewis said that the Ferrari PU is strong.
The key is that they are changing the concept of the ICE completely according to the report.
Yea, but the fact they’re using a transitional PU now and will change the concept does not necessarily mean that the current PU is weak. They might have found something innovative which might only be available come next season.
The concept shift is a result of Zimmerman's project failing (his move away makes more sense given this news).

Ferrari had to focus on just ensuring a reliable engine for this early season according to AR

https://x.com/rosariogiuliana/status/20 ... 05681?s=46

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I wonder what would have saved the teams more money, sticking with the 2025 formula or this silly reset with engine freeze and mario cart racing with customer teams struggling. I'm sure Ferrari would have got it right eventually.

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Jaymz wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 18:24
I wonder what would have saved the teams more money, sticking with the 2025 formula or this silly reset with engine freeze and mario cart racing with customer teams struggling. I'm sure Ferrari would have got it right eventually.
Regulation changes are part of the sport. In fact I am surprised the ground effect era remained relatively constant for so long. From 2009 to 2022 we had a lot of relatively significant changes.

2009-2010 were rather similar, but 2011 introduced DRS + mandated KERS. Also allowed the blown diffuser loophole.
2012 closed the blown diffuser loophole and made restrictions elsewhere as well, with the ugly step noses being a side effect of enforced crash structure shapes at the front. Then 2013 was stricter regarding nosebox shapes so step noses were gone. Tires were very different as well but they only lasted to Silverstone.
2014 was a complete overhaul. One of the biggest changes we had seen at the time. It remained rather constant until 2016 but there was a lot of development potential with PUs as well.
2017 changed the game completely again, in a bid to make the cars the fastest they had ever been.
Remained similar in 2018, the biggest difference was the halo IIRC.
In 2019 they made a rather big change with the front wings. They were extremely simplified. 2020 remained similar.
2021 was a transition year, so there weren't big changes, however I would argue the floor cut + the token system is the reason why we had a title fight. Otherwise if Mercedes was allowed to carry over the W11 with no compromises I dont think RedBull would have managed to bridge the gap.

And then from 2022 to 2025 there honestly weren't that many big changes. Cars that were designed in 2025 would have been (almost) fully legal in 2022 as well.

Long story short, we were due some sort of shakeup anyway. I just think they messed up the PU formula badly with this 50/50 split, but from a chassis or surface aero perspective, I think they took a step towards the right direction this year.
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Emag wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 18:35
Jaymz wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 18:24
I wonder what would have saved the teams more money, sticking with the 2025 formula or this silly reset with engine freeze and mario cart racing with customer teams struggling. I'm sure Ferrari would have got it right eventually.
Regulation changes are part of the sport. In fact I am surprised the ground effect era remained relatively constant for so long. From 2009 to 2022 we had a lot of relatively significant changes.

2009-2010 were rather similar, but 2011 introduced DRS + mandated KERS. Also allowed the blown diffuser loophole.
2012 closed the blown diffuser loophole and made restrictions elsewhere as well, with the ugly step noses being a side effect of enforced crash structure shapes at the front. Then 2013 was stricter regarding nosebox shapes so step noses were gone. Tires were very different as well but they only lasted to Silverstone.
2014 was a complete overhaul. One of the biggest changes we had seen at the time. It remained rather constant until 2016 but there was a lot of development potential with PUs as well.
2017 changed the game completely again, in a bid to make the cars the fastest they had ever been.
Remained similar in 2018, the biggest difference was the halo IIRC.
In 2019 they made a rather big change with the front wings. They were extremely simplified. 2020 remained similar.
2021 was a transition year, so there weren't big changes, however I would argue the floor cut + the token system is the reason why we had a title fight. Otherwise if Mercedes was allowed to carry over the W11 with no compromises I dont think RedBull would have managed to bridge the gap.

And then from 2022 to 2025 there honestly weren't that many big changes. Cars that were designed in 2025 would have been (almost) fully legal in 2022 as well.

Long story short, we were due some sort of shakeup anyway. I just think they messed up the PU formula badly with this 50/50 split, but from a chassis or surface aero perspective, I think they took a step towards the right direction this year.
Very nicely summed up.

If they can change the 50/50 split to 65/35 or 70/30, with 10 to 15 kilos more fuel, we would have brilliant regulations.

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Emag wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 18:35
Jaymz wrote:
10 Mar 2026, 18:24
I wonder what would have saved the teams more money, sticking with the 2025 formula or this silly reset with engine freeze and mario cart racing with customer teams struggling. I'm sure Ferrari would have got it right eventually.
Regulation changes are part of the sport. In fact I am surprised the ground effect era remained relatively constant for so long. From 2009 to 2022 we had a lot of relatively significant changes.

2009-2010 were rather similar, but 2011 introduced DRS + mandated KERS. Also allowed the blown diffuser loophole.
2012 closed the blown diffuser loophole and made restrictions elsewhere as well, with the ugly step noses being a side effect of enforced crash structure shapes at the front. Then 2013 was stricter regarding nosebox shapes so step noses were gone. Tires were very different as well but they only lasted to Silverstone.
2014 was a complete overhaul. One of the biggest changes we had seen at the time. It remained rather constant until 2016 but there was a lot of development potential with PUs as well.
2017 changed the game completely again, in a bid to make the cars the fastest they had ever been.
Remained similar in 2018, the biggest difference was the halo IIRC.
In 2019 they made a rather big change with the front wings. They were extremely simplified. 2020 remained similar.
2021 was a transition year, so there weren't big changes, however I would argue the floor cut + the token system is the reason why we had a title fight. Otherwise if Mercedes was allowed to carry over the W11 with no compromises I dont think RedBull would have managed to bridge the gap.

And then from 2022 to 2025 there honestly weren't that many big changes. Cars that were designed in 2025 would have been (almost) fully legal in 2022 as well.

Long story short, we were due some sort of shakeup anyway. I just think they messed up the PU formula badly with this 50/50 split, but from a chassis or surface aero perspective, I think they took a step towards the right direction this year.
Yes I know traditionally rule changes have been part of it but personally I would rather see extended stability in the regs. It doesn't have to change. It's extremely costly each rule change and some of the formulas they concoct are ridiculous like this 2026 farce.