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If they can crank up the engine and rpms to full that alone will give performance, too. Not sure if they will at Miami though, we'll see.

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FNTC wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 22:12
If they can crank up the engine and rpms to full that alone will give performance, too. Not sure if they will at Miami though, we'll see.
Agreed but they will still be 50-70hp down on the other engines ,and more importantly, can they recover energy at 350kw at all? Newey claimed in Australia they couldn’t even hit 250kw, so have they solved that issue? If the issue is the ICE is down 50 plus horsepower AND the recovery is also lacking 100kw then this performance deficit isn’t getting better anytime soon with Honda. Running an extra 1000rpm, so the engine makes all 515hp, doesn’t help after 1 lap when that same engine cannot recoup enough energy to power the 400kw electric motor. According to sources the Honda engine is horrible at charging up the battery pack and lacks even more power while doing that.The ADOU to fix these various issues seems unlikely this season, and sounds like a complete redesign is needed.

How can Aston even tell how good or bad their chassis is without being able to run the engine at full power for any length of time to test it? I think Miami should be considered the final preseason test for Aston, and then we will see if the rest of this season is a write off, or they might at least catch Cadillac and Williams. It seems ridiculous that Cadillac is doing a better job, and they are faster than Aston on track. But unless the team can get reliability / vibrations under control there is no chance of any progress. I hope they can show a significant improvement in those areas in Miami so they can then start to focus on improving performance after Monaco. Two DNFs and 3 + seconds off the pace in Miami is likely still what the team is facing. Being competitive in 2027 is already looking unlikely at this point without seeing some trending uptick in lap times and reliability. Fingers crossed. 🤞

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V10FURY wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 00:18
FNTC wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 22:12
If they can crank up the engine and rpms to full that alone will give performance, too. Not sure if they will at Miami though, we'll see.
Agreed but they will still be 50-70hp down on the other engines ,and more importantly, can they recover energy at 350kw at all? Newey claimed in Australia they couldn’t even hit 250kw, so have they solved that issue? If the issue is the ICE is down 50 plus horsepower AND the recovery is also lacking 100kw then this performance deficit isn’t getting better anytime soon with Honda. Running an extra 1000rpm, so the engine makes all 515hp, doesn’t help after 1 lap when that same engine cannot recoup enough energy to power the 400kw electric motor. According to sources the Honda engine is horrible at charging up the battery pack and lacks even more power while doing that.The ADOU to fix these various issues seems unlikely this season, and sounds like a complete redesign is needed.

How can Aston even tell how good or bad their chassis is without being able to run the engine at full power for any length of time to test it? I think Miami should be considered the final preseason test for Aston, and then we will see if the rest of this season is a write off, or they might at least catch Cadillac and Williams. It seems ridiculous that Cadillac is doing a better job, and they are faster than Aston on track. But unless the team can get reliability / vibrations under control there is no chance of any progress. I hope they can show a significant improvement in those areas in Miami so they can then start to focus on improving performance after Monaco. Two DNFs and 3 + seconds off the pace in Miami is likely still what the team is facing. Being competitive in 2027 is already looking unlikely at this point without seeing some trending uptick in lap times and reliability. Fingers crossed. 🤞
I'm actually growing tired of this "Aston don't know how good their chassis is because the engine is THAT bad". Seriously? It's down 50hp, not 500hp. It's achieving similar speeds as the others, they aren't 50kph down. They have plenty of information to understand how rubbish or not the chassis is. It's such an insane fallacy to continually imply they have zero idea how good the chassis is and it is solely Honda's fault. Can we please get a grip and come back down to reality.
They've had battery issues, the vibration issue is not solely on Honda, that much has got to be obvious, the ICE has actually been rock solid reliability wise. The gearbox is a KNOWN weak point that is a limitation in everything required for correct functioning in this formula here. There are a lot of moving parts here. Let's actually have an intelligent conversation here.

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GhostF1 wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 01:06
Can we please get a grip and come back down to reality.
Yes please! :D

The quotes from Mr. Orihara are most likely an exercise in expectation management. This is a time for Honda to underpromise and overdeliver. The alternative means PU is fundamentally flawed and everyone was always screwed, so no sense in worrying about it.

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Brahmal wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 02:52
GhostF1 wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 01:06
Can we please get a grip and come back down to reality.
Yes please! :D

The quotes from Mr. Orihara are most likely an exercise in expectation management. This is a time for Honda to underpromise and overdeliver. The alternative means PU is fundamentally flawed and everyone was always screwed, so no sense in worrying about it.
The weekend is almost here. What's the point in arguing about it, soon we'll have stop watch confirmation.

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GhostF1 wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 01:06
V10FURY wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 00:18
FNTC wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 22:12
If they can crank up the engine and rpms to full that alone will give performance, too. Not sure if they will at Miami though, we'll see.
Agreed but they will still be 50-70hp down on the other engines ,and more importantly, can they recover energy at 350kw at all? Newey claimed in Australia they couldn’t even hit 250kw, so have they solved that issue? If the issue is the ICE is down 50 plus horsepower AND the recovery is also lacking 100kw then this performance deficit isn’t getting better anytime soon with Honda. Running an extra 1000rpm, so the engine makes all 515hp, doesn’t help after 1 lap when that same engine cannot recoup enough energy to power the 400kw electric motor. According to sources the Honda engine is horrible at charging up the battery pack and lacks even more power while doing that.The ADOU to fix these various issues seems unlikely this season, and sounds like a complete redesign is needed.

How can Aston even tell how good or bad their chassis is without being able to run the engine at full power for any length of time to test it? I think Miami should be considered the final preseason test for Aston, and then we will see if the rest of this season is a write off, or they might at least catch Cadillac and Williams. It seems ridiculous that Cadillac is doing a better job, and they are faster than Aston on track. But unless the team can get reliability / vibrations under control there is no chance of any progress. I hope they can show a significant improvement in those areas in Miami so they can then start to focus on improving performance after Monaco. Two DNFs and 3 + seconds off the pace in Miami is likely still what the team is facing. Being competitive in 2027 is already looking unlikely at this point without seeing some trending uptick in lap times and reliability. Fingers crossed. 🤞
I'm actually growing tired of this "Aston don't know how good their chassis is because the engine is THAT bad". Seriously? It's down 50hp, not 500hp. It's achieving similar speeds as the others, they aren't 50kph down. They have plenty of information to understand how rubbish or not the chassis is. It's such an insane fallacy to continually imply they have zero idea how good the chassis is and it is solely Honda's fault. Can we please get a grip and come back down to reality.
They've had battery issues, the vibration issue is not solely on Honda, that much has got to be obvious, the ICE has actually been rock solid reliability wise. The gearbox is a KNOWN weak point that is a limitation in everything required for correct functioning in this formula here. There are a lot of moving parts here. Let's actually have an intelligent conversation here.
Yes, Aston's chassis is clearly weak and car is overweight. They were probably 2 months behind everyone anyway. But they have had maybe 10% of mileage in testing of most other teams largely due to engine reliability. And most of that running being done at compromised speeds. You cannot improve the aero of the car because the first piority of the team has become to adapt the car to not vibrate itself to pieces.

50 Hp down is an extraordinary deficit. Literally makes you uncompetitive. Based on historical data, that translates to 0.6 - 1.0 second per lap deficit. According to some estimates, the deficit is closer to 60-70KW.

Acheiving similar speeds? What top speeds? If thats what you are refering to, thats the dumbest way to judge how the PU is performing.

Honda has had vibration issues with Mclaren, Red Bull and now Aston Martin. They probably share some blame here but the pattern is hard to ignore.

The gearbox maybe a problem but Ive yet to see anything that says its THE PROBLEM holding everything back. Like where is this theory coming from?

Yes, Aston is lagging on the aero side which makes sense how far behind they were and they probably made some mistakes as well or were too ambitious. But these things cannot be improved without proper running and not having a functional PU seriously inhibits that.

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I'm actually growing tired of this "Aston don't know how good their chassis is because the engine is THAT bad". Seriously? It's down 50hp, not 500hp. It's achieving similar speeds as the others, they aren't 50kph down. They have plenty of information to understand how rubbish or not the chassis is. It's such an insane fallacy to continually imply they have zero idea how good the chassis is and it is solely Honda's fault. Can we please get a grip and come back down to reality.
They've had battery issues, the vibration issue is not solely on Honda, that much has got to be obvious, the ICE has actually been rock solid reliability wise. The gearbox is a KNOWN weak point that is a limitation in everything required for correct functioning in this formula here. There are a lot of moving parts here. Let's actually have an intelligent conversation here.
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Not sure why facts make you tired exactly. Here are the facts for Aston Martin/Honda this season:

2026 F1 pre-season testing: Overall laps by each manufacturer
Pos. Manufacturer Laps
1st Mercedes 4,098
2nd Ferrari 3,084
3rd Red Bull Powertrains 2,021
4th Audi 941
5th Honda 394 (detuned slow laps)

Australia Race

Aston Martin’s opening weekend at the 2026 Australian Grand Prix was hampered by power-unit (PU) issues that severely limited their track time.

FP1: Fernando Alonso missed the session entirely due to a suspected PU problem
FP2: Lance Stroll lost valuable track time on Friday and then sat out FP3 after an ICE issue
FP3: The team ran trouble-free and completed the session, but they were already chasing mileage before qualifying

According to team statements, they “didn’t complete many laps” in FP1 and FP2, and in FP3 they were “short on batteries” and couldn’t risk too much running www.astonmartinf1.com. The combined total of track laps for both cars was around 64 laps over the three sessions

This lack of mileage meant they couldn’t fully assess the AMR26’s potential, and both cars were already struggling with reliability before the race. The team’s focus shifted to data gathering and component preservation rather than pushing for maximum lap count.

Summary:

FP1: Alonso out due to PU issue

FP2: Stroll out due to ICE issue

FP3: 64 total laps combined, with caution due to PU/battery constraints

Overall: Limited running, prioritized learning over lap count or performance

Race:
Alonso 21 laps retired
Stroll 43 laps retired



China Race:
Free Practice 1 at the Shanghai International Circuit, Aston Martin drivers Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll each completed 9 laps in FP1

Sprint Race:
Alonso 19 laps
Stroll 19 laps

Main Race:
Alonso 32 laps: Fernando Alonso started the race but retired after 32 laps due to severe vibrations from the Honda-powered AMR26, which caused him to lose feeling in his hands and feet
Stroll 10 laps : Lance Stroll also retired early, after 10 laps, due to a suspected battery problem in the hybrid system


Japan Grand Prix
FP1 (Free Practice 1):
Alonso – 27 laps
Stroll – 22 laps
Crawford (third driver) – 11 laps

Race:
Alonso 57 laps finished 18th
Stroll 30 laps : Lance Stroll retired from the 2026 Japanese Grand Prix on Lap 30 after a technical issue with the car’s water pressure system


Analyzing these results knowing that even when the car has been on track and running it has been unreliable, vibrating/detuned, destroying batteries, and not able to run at maximum power as yet. The team had less than half the laps of the other single engine supplier, Audi, during pre-season and was even behind brand new team, Cadillac. I think 60% of this blame is at Hondas feet and Aston are on the hook for 40% of it for not integrating the powerplant sooner. If they had they would have seen this vibration issue months earlier and not been caught so off guard. If Newey is correct that nobody from Aston showed up to Sakura to look over the Honda engine project until November 2025, then that is unacceptable and is 100% on Aston. It doesn't excuse the awful engine, horrible recharging and being so far down on power compared to its rivals.

Team Principal Mike Krack, a man known for his calm and measured demeanor, could not conceal the gravity of the situation. In his debriefs, he painted a picture of a team grappling with a challenge of immense proportions. “Every lap you miss is a lap you cannot learn,” he noted, a simple statement that carries the weight of a monumental disadvantage. In Formula 1, track time is an irrecoverable asset. Each missed lap represents lost data on tire degradation, fuel consumption, component stress, and the complex interplay of the car’s aerodynamic platform with the physical track. While rivals were honing their understanding of the 2026 regulations and refining their setups, Aston Martin’s engineers were engaged in a frustrating cycle of problem identification and containment, a reactive posture that is the antithesis of the proactive, forward-moving ethos of a top-tier racing organization.

So the question should be, based on that disastrous start to the preseason and first 3 races, how could Aston Martin know if they have a good chassis or not. They are hundreds of miles behind the competition in testing and race distance, and have yet to be able to run the cars at full power without issues. Seems like common sense they are missing giant chunks of data to evaluate the overall car package. Anyone that has watched Formula 1 understands that losing this much time on track, with these new regulations, spells doom for a team.

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Yep, agreed. I am choosing to look at this as the start of the season. We'll see how they can improve from here.

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GhostF1 wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 01:06
V10FURY wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 00:18
FNTC wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 22:12
If they can crank up the engine and rpms to full that alone will give performance, too. Not sure if they will at Miami though, we'll see.
Agreed but they will still be 50-70hp down on the other engines ,and more importantly, can they recover energy at 350kw at all? Newey claimed in Australia they couldn’t even hit 250kw, so have they solved that issue? If the issue is the ICE is down 50 plus horsepower AND the recovery is also lacking 100kw then this performance deficit isn’t getting better anytime soon with Honda. Running an extra 1000rpm, so the engine makes all 515hp, doesn’t help after 1 lap when that same engine cannot recoup enough energy to power the 400kw electric motor. According to sources the Honda engine is horrible at charging up the battery pack and lacks even more power while doing that.The ADOU to fix these various issues seems unlikely this season, and sounds like a complete redesign is needed.

How can Aston even tell how good or bad their chassis is without being able to run the engine at full power for any length of time to test it? I think Miami should be considered the final preseason test for Aston, and then we will see if the rest of this season is a write off, or they might at least catch Cadillac and Williams. It seems ridiculous that Cadillac is doing a better job, and they are faster than Aston on track. But unless the team can get reliability / vibrations under control there is no chance of any progress. I hope they can show a significant improvement in those areas in Miami so they can then start to focus on improving performance after Monaco. Two DNFs and 3 + seconds off the pace in Miami is likely still what the team is facing. Being competitive in 2027 is already looking unlikely at this point without seeing some trending uptick in lap times and reliability. Fingers crossed. 🤞
I'm actually growing tired of this "Aston don't know how good their chassis is because the engine is THAT bad". Seriously? It's down 50hp, not 500hp. It's achieving similar speeds as the others, they aren't 50kph down. They have plenty of information to understand how rubbish or not the chassis is. It's such an insane fallacy to continually imply they have zero idea how good the chassis is and it is solely Honda's fault. Can we please get a grip and come back down to reality.
They've had battery issues, the vibration issue is not solely on Honda, that much has got to be obvious, the ICE has actually been rock solid reliability wise. The gearbox is a KNOWN weak point that is a limitation in everything required for correct functioning in this formula here. There are a lot of moving parts here. Let's actually have an intelligent conversation here.
i keep hearing about this gearbox problem from people that dont really know anything. if youd like to seperate yourself from those guys please send a link. usually those individuals are naming anything that points away from the PU though. the first step is always admitting that you have a problem

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Badger wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 12:10
dr_cooke wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 12:06
"being realistic, this progress will not have a visible impact on the PU performance on track, so we should not expect any big step forward here"
That is quite an astonishing quote for the rest of the season if you are AMR.
We have made some progress, which will allow us to implement new corrective measures in Miami and later in the season"

Being realistic, this progress WILL NOT have a visible impact on the power unit's on-track performance, so we MUST NOT expect major advances here"
collindsilva wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 06:39
zoroastar wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 04:59
https://imgbb.com/
For Miami,
New Honda engine - is this new spec engine or upgraded engine, if new spec, then this should be the benchmark for ADOU. if it is upgraded, then Is it ADOU upgrade.

New steering column - so the vibration from the engine is not yet resolved.

Its confusing...

Sounds like the "upgrade" is damping on the engine, probably with a lot of extra weight. And modifications on the steering-column (and potentially other parts of the chassis) to better handle the vibrations.

I don't think this can be ADUO. The FIA had not determined yet who qualifies. And they would be foolish to waste ADUO on a vibration mitigation update... Also I think the benchmark is whatever the engine was capable of on the test bench, where vibration didn't matter, the FIA might even run the PUs supplied to them by the teams. (Not that the FIA reveals the process...)

I think most reasonably this is a reliability upgrade, with a better one coming later. (Spa rumored)
And it is probably worse in power because of vibration damping, comparing when allowed to go to full power. And surely has more weight.
Then the first ADUO before the end of the year as rules require and the second before March.

Unless of course they redesigned much of the engine/PU to no vibrate, which doesn't seem likely. Why would they need a new steering column then?
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Jambier wrote:
28 Apr 2026, 12:44
To summarize:

- they have done some full testing
- they are starting to implement fixes

Goal is to finish the races, remove vibrations, improve drivability

So 0 performance upgrade.
Also I’m keeping the same opinion that Honda will not be able to use ADUO, they will do a new one for 2027 and that’s it
Based on what? The perfromance is dreadful. The can only make a "new one" for 2027 only with ADUO to begin with...
Makes sense to put on the track whatever they accomplished on the final races to test and verify. Then keep developing to the other deadline of March 1.

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Argh, now what? This ruleset is insane. From autosport,
autosport wrote:there is still considerable room for improvement on the software side, where the parameters allow more freedom of action. However, it should be remembered that from a certain point in the season onward, software updates will also be limited, so each intervention will need to be planned more carefully.

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https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/f1-c ... xtra-help/

While some fans and certain media outlets continue to make excuses for Honda and downplay how bad their PU is, rival manufactures and FIA are thinking about changing the rules to help Honda even more than what is already allowed under ADUO. This should make it very clear where they stand when they are not even seen as a threat in the future by their competitors.

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peewon wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 03:47
GhostF1 wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 01:06
V10FURY wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 00:18


Agreed but they will still be 50-70hp down on the other engines ,and more importantly, can they recover energy at 350kw at all? Newey claimed in Australia they couldn’t even hit 250kw, so have they solved that issue? If the issue is the ICE is down 50 plus horsepower AND the recovery is also lacking 100kw then this performance deficit isn’t getting better anytime soon with Honda. Running an extra 1000rpm, so the engine makes all 515hp, doesn’t help after 1 lap when that same engine cannot recoup enough energy to power the 400kw electric motor. According to sources the Honda engine is horrible at charging up the battery pack and lacks even more power while doing that.The ADOU to fix these various issues seems unlikely this season, and sounds like a complete redesign is needed.

How can Aston even tell how good or bad their chassis is without being able to run the engine at full power for any length of time to test it? I think Miami should be considered the final preseason test for Aston, and then we will see if the rest of this season is a write off, or they might at least catch Cadillac and Williams. It seems ridiculous that Cadillac is doing a better job, and they are faster than Aston on track. But unless the team can get reliability / vibrations under control there is no chance of any progress. I hope they can show a significant improvement in those areas in Miami so they can then start to focus on improving performance after Monaco. Two DNFs and 3 + seconds off the pace in Miami is likely still what the team is facing. Being competitive in 2027 is already looking unlikely at this point without seeing some trending uptick in lap times and reliability. Fingers crossed. 🤞
I'm actually growing tired of this "Aston don't know how good their chassis is because the engine is THAT bad". Seriously? It's down 50hp, not 500hp. It's achieving similar speeds as the others, they aren't 50kph down. They have plenty of information to understand how rubbish or not the chassis is. It's such an insane fallacy to continually imply they have zero idea how good the chassis is and it is solely Honda's fault. Can we please get a grip and come back down to reality.
They've had battery issues, the vibration issue is not solely on Honda, that much has got to be obvious, the ICE has actually been rock solid reliability wise. The gearbox is a KNOWN weak point that is a limitation in everything required for correct functioning in this formula here. There are a lot of moving parts here. Let's actually have an intelligent conversation here.
Yes, Aston's chassis is clearly weak and car is overweight. They were probably 2 months behind everyone anyway. But they have had maybe 10% of mileage in testing of most other teams largely due to engine reliability. And most of that running being done at compromised speeds. You cannot improve the aero of the car because the first piority of the team has become to adapt the car to not vibrate itself to pieces.

50 Hp down is an extraordinary deficit. Literally makes you uncompetitive. Based on historical data, that translates to 0.6 - 1.0 second per lap deficit. According to some estimates, the deficit is closer to 60-70KW.

Acheiving similar speeds? What top speeds? If thats what you are refering to, thats the dumbest way to judge how the PU is performing.

Honda has had vibration issues with Mclaren, Red Bull and now Aston Martin. They probably share some blame here but the pattern is hard to ignore.

The gearbox maybe a problem but Ive yet to see anything that says its THE PROBLEM holding everything back. Like where is this theory coming from?

Yes, Aston is lagging on the aero side which makes sense how far behind they were and they probably made some mistakes as well or were too ambitious. But these things cannot be improved without proper running and not having a functional PU seriously inhibits that.
The issue is the baseless, braindead parroting that the chassis can't be tested because the engine is so flawed and that it's the only reason the car is performing where it is, if we had a MErc PU we'd be top of the midfield. No, we wouldn't. No one is saying Honda shouldn't cop some of the blame here, they clearly do need to have some accountability for the PU's ultimate performance, and yes 50hp is a substantial deficiency on a total performance level when compared to other teams, however it is not a development inhibiting amount.. like please. I'm not discussing top speeds as a measure of power unit performance. I'm mentioning race speeds as being within the ballpark as that it isn't a preventative to understanding the base characteristics of the chassis, and claiming as such is nonsensical.
I said the gearbox was one of the known weak points. It has been discussed as such since pre-season testing. It is a significant one, but I did not say it is THE PROBLEM, but more that it is part of a larger group of issues that encompass the entire car that should be considered.

Aston came to Pre-Season days late due to various issues, unrelated to Honda. So total lap count is again, not strictly Honda's fault. Yes there were battery issues and they were responsible for a portion of the lack of running, but there was an array of car issues also. You had McLaren, Red Bull, Mercedes, Cadillac, Audi all have a car out of action for an entire day (at least) due to power unit and chassis issues which were more severe in nature. Everyone has faced them and retired from multiple GP's.

This vibration at other teams claim is also nonsense. They never experienced issues like this with Toro Rosso or Red Bull and the vibration issues at McLaren were MGU-H related.

My point is it is a lazy analysis to claim the Honda is the sole reason behind the Aston's performance or the crazy argument "they can't test the chassis properly" and it's why they are behind in development. Chasing this vibration issue is just as much Aston's responsibility as it is Honda's when it comes to integrating the chassis and PU. It's foolish and a poor rabbit hole to follow that one company is to bear the blame for all of the current problems. I've even seen people claiming Honda should reimburse Aston and their shareholders for the current situation. Min blowing stance to have frankly.

We are literally watching the birth of an entirely new architecture, in car, company structure, partnerships, development teams, design/construction and leadership and we were all prematurely hoping this newborn would run straight out of the cot. What's actually happening is we're dragging it through the mud with a collar on hoping it gets the message and learns to run ASAP.

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peewon wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 23:19
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/f1-c ... xtra-help/

While some fans and certain media outlets continue to make excuses for Honda and downplay how bad their PU is, rival manufactures and FIA are thinking about changing the rules to help Honda even more than what is already allowed under ADUO. This should make it very clear where they stand when they are not even seen as a threat in the future by their competitors.
Huh? It's extremely evident they are the furthest behind. I'm not sure anyone in their right mind would disagree with that evaluation. But there is a difference between being the lowest performing PU (see Renault PU the last 4 years) and also being the "only reason" for a teams poor performance and mishaps. That is a distinction that is getting lost and yet it's one of the most important things for any of us to maybe comprehend here. You could put a Merc in the back of this car and we'd still be challenging a Haas. That is still unacceptable for the size and capability Aston has at the moment.