[ 2020 ] Aston Martin RedBull Racing F1 Team - Honda

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Mchamilton wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 21:18
Big Tea wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 20:03
As Albon has been complaining of sudden 'snap' from the front, I think they have been reducing the front DF , so this would induce oversteer would it not?
No, less front downforce induces understeer
Usually, but I was thinking if they have been trying things previously to correct it, and the new wing nullifies the previous problem it may possibly have wrong footed them? They can obviously trim it out, but if it was unexpected they would not know until it was felt
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TNTHead wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 20:36
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04 Sep 2020, 20:31
What I don’t understand, they talk about Max speed, but they list everyone else also.
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Indeed strange list, ever heard of 'Vers'.. :roll:
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Wouter wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 21:47
TNTHead wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 20:36
Sieper wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 20:31
What I don’t understand, they talk about Max speed, but they list everyone else also.
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Indeed strange list, ever heard of 'Vers'.. :roll:
Ever heard of humor? :wink:
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Chicane wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 21:13
Mclaren and Renault will challenge Redbull in qualifying tomorrow. Race pace, obviously Redbull has the edge but i am not so sure about qualifying with tow being worth half a second. Albon especially looks really shaky.
You don't understand well. Gasly and kwyat were running a stronger Pu mode for pure testing, in favour of bulls, just to check the higher correct limits before failure. Fortunately the Pu responded well. With this data they can better study a better balanced Pu mode for the red bull race. Only red bull group can do this and maybe Ferrari. Renault can not and mercedes neither because they can not treat their engine clients like that

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Pany wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 22:06
You don't understand well. Gasly and kwyat were running a stronger Pu mode for pure testing, in favour of bulls, just to check the higher correct limits before failure. Fortunately the Pu responded well. With this data they can better study a better balanced Pu mode for the red bull race. Only red bull group can do this and maybe Ferrari. Renault can not and mercedes neither because they can not treat their engine clients like that
I agree. Using the aggressive mapping of PU Renault could be a disaster for them in the race, otherwise they would not have been so slow before. In the end, I think everyone will be in about the same positions, with the exception of Mercedes, which will be forced to use its settings in a more aggressive mode. This can only increase the gap, it is very likely that before that they just played without showing their true strength. We will see.

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they (merc) can be faster in race trim but they feel sore about this td and there must be a reason for that. Because if this makes you faster then what is problem with it ?

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Mchamilton wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 21:19
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04 Sep 2020, 20:31
What I don’t understand, they talk about Max speed, but they list everyone else also.
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:D Not my best Indeed, can’t help it sometimes. was triggered by the spanish grammar “velocidades Max”

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etusch wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 22:46
they (merc) can be faster in race trim but they feel sore about this td and there must be a reason for that. Because if this makes you faster then what is problem with it ?
there is a reason why Red Bull pushed for 'quali mode' ban :wink:
just today Toto was hallucinating about using the party mode in full races next yeear :mrgreen:

who ever think Gasly and Norris are faster than Max ,good luck with that.

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etusch wrote:they (merc) can be faster in race trim but they feel sore about this td and there must be a reason for that. Because if this makes you faster then what is problem with it ?
I guess they might be upset that they are been targeted just because they have done a better job than the rest? I


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mem wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 23:07
etusch wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 22:46
they (merc) can be faster in race trim but they feel sore about this td and there must be a reason for that. Because if this makes you faster then what is problem with it ?
there is a reason why Red Bull pushed for 'quali mode' ban :wink:
just today Toto was hallucinating about using the party mode in full races next yeear :mrgreen:

who ever think Gasly and Norris are faster than Max ,good luck with that.
how can they afford of the mode from point of fuel and if two laps of Q mode takes away from their engine 25 laps of higher race mode usage, 60 lap of Q mode usage will take away 750 laps which are 12 race long. lets they made 25, 15 laps still it make 7 races. So 7 race tear will be in just one race ?
Aren't they drain their battery at Q mode, aren't they doing recharge lap before next try ? He must be drunk when he said that.

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mem wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 23:07

there is a reason why Red Bull pushed for 'quali mode' ban :wink:
just today Toto was hallucinating about using the party mode in full races next yeear :mrgreen:

who ever think Gasly and Norris are faster than Max ,good luck with that.
Be careful what u wish for.
Not only can Gasly n Norris outqualify max with a decent tow, i think Danny Ric will be much faster than Max. They are still struggling with balance after all these races some at same circuits. Monza typically bunches all teams so its all down to who gets the best tow and track condition.

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The tow isn't as OP as it was last year, because most cars have less drag.
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McMika98 wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 23:29
mem wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 23:07

there is a reason why Red Bull pushed for 'quali mode' ban :wink:
just today Toto was hallucinating about using the party mode in full races next yeear :mrgreen:

who ever think Gasly and Norris are faster than Max ,good luck with that.
Be careful what u wish for.
Not only can Gasly n Norris outqualify max with a decent tow, i think Danny Ric will be much faster than Max. They are still struggling with balance after all these races some at same circuits. Monza typically bunches all teams so its all down to who gets the best tow and track condition.
Then again. You are always here when things even smell like possibly not going as planned to make all kind of ominous predictions. And sometimes even just for the sake of it. This is the best chance Ricciardo has on a podium. Actually maybe even a fair shot, I’ll give you that.

Tomorrow RBR will be very close, unless they really cannot make their set up work. If you read neweys book you learn that that indeed happens. Heck, if the infallible mercedes got it wrong in Silverstone (2). Maybe 1 also.

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etusch wrote:
04 Sep 2020, 22:46
they (merc) can be faster in race trim but they feel sore about this td and there must be a reason for that. Because if this makes you faster then what is problem with it ?
Mercedes feels they are being unfairly targeted on the behest of Red Bull and Ferrari. A TD should be to stop people exploiting rules, not to simply take away an advantage, without a clear explanation. They are not happy that FIA has not provided a proper clarification on this action.
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godlameroso wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 00:58
The tow isn't as OP as it was last year, because most cars have less drag.
Ahem! I know aero is your strong point but please feel free to enlighten us with why a tow isn't worth the same as last year. Did we change the aero this year or is it not the same reg? Also now that there isnt the same quali mode, a row will make all the difference.