What actually happened is this: Stroll was on a fast warmup lap, not an actual hot-lap (laptime 1:21.7 - too slow for a proper flying lap). This fooled verstappen's enginner who told verstappen stroll is on a flying lap. Verstappen then probably fully expected stroll to lift after the start/finish line, but in reality stroll was just starting his true flying lap.
Let's see if there's consistency, I recall just a couple of races ago an engineer giving Hamilton incorrect instruction on where he could or couldn't do a practice start. By the rules this should be a 3 place grid penalty for Verstappen. Should not be an issue, but... she show.Juzh wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:24What actually happened is this: Stroll was on a fast warmup lap, not an actual hot-lap (laptime 1:20.9 - too slow for a proper flying lap). This fooled verstappen's enginner who told verstappen stroll is on a flying lap. Verstappen then probably fully expected stroll to lift after the start/finish line, but in reality stroll was just starting his true flying lap.
Stroll still didn't think of lifting at all despite having a car halfway alongside him. So still majority of blame is on him. He knew full well verstappen was about to start his lap.
I can't disagree with you more.
This is also what I thought, Stroll just passed Max in turn 14 so lift after start finish and Max can start his hotlap.Juzh wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:24What actually happened is this: Stroll was on a fast warmup lap, not an actual hot-lap (laptime 1:21.7 - too slow for a proper flying lap). This fooled verstappen's enginner who told verstappen stroll is on a flying lap. Verstappen then probably fully expected stroll to lift after the start/finish line, but in reality stroll was just starting his true flying lap.
Stroll still didn't think of lifting at all despite having a car halfway alongside him. So still majority of blame is on him. He knew full well verstappen was about to start his lap.
There is a difference in driving into a closed pit and expecting someone else to slow down after start finish based on what the engineers says. You can never drive into a closed pits while you can expect someone to slow down after a hot lap.TAG wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:28Let's see if there's consistency, I recall just a couple of races ago an engineer giving Hamilton incorrect instruction on where he could or couldn't do a practice start. By the rules this should be a 3 place grid penalty for Verstappen. Should not be an issue, but... she show.Juzh wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:24What actually happened is this: Stroll was on a fast warmup lap, not an actual hot-lap (laptime 1:20.9 - too slow for a proper flying lap). This fooled verstappen's enginner who told verstappen stroll is on a flying lap. Verstappen then probably fully expected stroll to lift after the start/finish line, but in reality stroll was just starting his true flying lap.
Stroll still didn't think of lifting at all despite having a car halfway alongside him. So still majority of blame is on him. He knew full well verstappen was about to start his lap.
In the end Max misread Stroll’s intentions and thought he would peel off before the first corner. Stroll failed to look in his mirrors and accidentally ran him of the road.Sieper wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:40This is also what I thought, Stroll just passed Max in turn 14 so lift after start finish and Max can start his hotlap.Juzh wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:24What actually happened is this: Stroll was on a fast warmup lap, not an actual hot-lap (laptime 1:21.7 - too slow for a proper flying lap). This fooled verstappen's enginner who told verstappen stroll is on a flying lap. Verstappen then probably fully expected stroll to lift after the start/finish line, but in reality stroll was just starting his true flying lap.
Stroll still didn't think of lifting at all despite having a car halfway alongside him. So still majority of blame is on him. He knew full well verstappen was about to start his lap.
Actually it was not racing.Edax wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:53In the end Max misread Stroll’s intentions and thought he would peel off before the first corner. Stroll failed to look in his mirrors and accidentally ran him of the road.Sieper wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:40This is also what I thought, Stroll just passed Max in turn 14 so lift after start finish and Max can start his hotlap.Juzh wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:24
What actually happened is this: Stroll was on a fast warmup lap, not an actual hot-lap (laptime 1:21.7 - too slow for a proper flying lap). This fooled verstappen's enginner who told verstappen stroll is on a flying lap. Verstappen then probably fully expected stroll to lift after the start/finish line, but in reality stroll was just starting his true flying lap.
Stroll still didn't think of lifting at all despite having a car halfway alongside him. So still majority of blame is on him. He knew full well verstappen was about to start his lap.
I guess that evens out. I’d vote no penalty and let the drivers sort it out. It’s racing, not kindergarten.
It is not the parking lot at the IKEA eitherLM10 wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:57Actually it was not racing.Edax wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 17:53In the end Max misread Stroll’s intentions and thought he would peel off before the first corner. Stroll failed to look in his mirrors and accidentally ran him of the road.
I guess that evens out. I’d vote no penalty and let the drivers sort it out. It’s racing, not kindergarten.