2021 Alpine F1 Team

[diffuser]

But looking at Ocon despite several safety cars he still wasn’t able to come close to the top 10 which shows the car doesn’t deserve to be in the top 10 anyway and thanks to other drivers underperforming and Alonso’s brilliance it ended up in there. Lots of work to do.

People saying “just throw away this year and focus on next year” ... it’s not that simple. They also need to understand why they are slow so they don’t make the same mistake again next year.

The floor regulation are different next year, so you're not learning anything you can apply to 2022.

[diffuser]

Perfect! That's why I am worried about it. It is not easy task to cover 1.2 second defeat in Qualy and poor race speed in single year. They Alpine need to react fast else same for 2022 till 2025 for new rule change.

I hope they can.....

Don't have to, Completely different regulation next year. Everyone is starting at Zero. Only carry over is the PU.

They said the floor change this year was a bigger change than they were expecting and it caught them out. Next year most of the development is going to be around the floors again so they better make sure they can get on top of this one with there correlation or they could be developing into a black hole.

Do they really look like they spent alot of Money on 2021 ? They spent the most money on the paint.


I also think they are faster than they looked in Alonso hands. They looked good until they started having deployment problems. Be interesting to find out exactly when that started.

[r101]

Let's just hope McLaren's diffusor hack is applicable and brings solid gains. It would help with the rear end.

[RedNEO]

But looking at Ocon despite several safety cars he still wasn’t able to come close to the top 10 which shows the car doesn’t deserve to be in the top 10 anyway and thanks to other drivers underperforming and Alonso’s brilliance it ended up in there. Lots of work to do.

People saying “just throw away this year and focus on next year” ... it’s not that simple. They also need to understand why they are slow so they don’t make the same mistake again next year.

The floor regulation are different next year, so you're not learning anything you can apply to 2022.

You are always learning.. knowledge is power. It’s no coincidence why top teams still manage to come out at the top each regulation change big or small.

What worries me is they said they see performance on the floor in the factory that’s not showing on track so they have correlation problems at the moment so imagine completely switching to next year with that in mind.. it’s asking for trouble.

[zeph]

I thought Alonso’s pace before the brake failure was encouraging.

[RedNEO]

Do they really look like they spent alot of Money on 2021 ? They spent the most money on the paint.


I also think they are faster than they looked in Alonso hands. They looked good until they started having deployment problems. Be interesting to find out exactly when that started.

Where did you hear this?

[RedNEO]

I thought Alonso’s pace before the brake failure was encouraging.

Yeah it was looking good and it would have been nice to see how that would have developed for the whole race. If it was only debris in the ducts that put a stop to his progress then it’s just unlucky but Ocon looked like he only had pace for 12th ish on the other hand.

[diffuser]

But looking at Ocon despite several safety cars he still wasn’t able to come close to the top 10 which shows the car doesn’t deserve to be in the top 10 anyway and thanks to other drivers underperforming and Alonso’s brilliance it ended up in there. Lots of work to do.

People saying “just throw away this year and focus on next year” ... it’s not that simple. They also need to understand why they are slow so they don’t make the same mistake again next year.

The floor regulation are different next year, so you're not learning anything you can apply to 2022.

You are always learning.. knowledge is power. It’s no coincidence why top teams still manage to come out at the top each regulation change big or small.

What worries me is they said they see performance on the floor in the factory that’s not showing on track so they have correlation problems at the moment so imagine completely switching to next year with that in mind.. it’s asking for trouble.

Have you looked at the rear floor of the top teams VS Alpine. Day 1 in tested they were doing things that are ahead of Alpine today.

Someone mentioned the McLaren diffuser trick. If that is REALLY worth something and they can adopted that. It would be good.

[RedNEO]

The floor regulation are different next year, so you're not learning anything you can apply to 2022.

You are always learning.. knowledge is power. It’s no coincidence why top teams still manage to come out at the top each regulation change big or small.

What worries me is they said they see performance on the floor in the factory that’s not showing on track so they have correlation problems at the moment so imagine completely switching to next year with that in mind.. it’s asking for trouble.

Have you looked at the rear floor of the top teams VS Alpine. Day 1 in tested they were doing things that are ahead of Alpine today.

Someone mentioned the McLaren diffuser trick. If that is REALLY worth something and they can adopted that. It would be good.

Yeah I agree, that’s what good confidence in your tools and correlation looks like. Alpine need to get to that stage before next year. Because they were busy trying different floors and trying to find a direction while the top teams were pretty much settled.

I’m sure they will look at McLaren if it’s giving a lot of rear downforce because the Alpine looks slightly sluggish on corners. Does Alpine have a chassis dyno?

[Jambier]

7th team but it was expected.

Barely no engine update, old chassis.

I’ m happy in a way they need to be 100% on 2022 let’s not waste time on 2021

[GoranF1]

Difficult year ahead. Agree whit someone saying only Haas and Williams slower.
Williams of Russell very close.
Sacrafise 2021 and focus everything on '22 is my hope.

[diffuser]

Do they really look like they spent alot of Money on 2021 ? They spent the most money on the paint.


I also think they are faster than they looked in Alonso hands. They looked good until they started having deployment problems. Be interesting to find out exactly when that started.

Where did you hear this?

Looking at the lap times on the FIA web site. It really depends on when they got the debris in the brake ducts. To me he starts to struggle at Lap 8. If that's when we got the debris, we're better than if it happened on Lap 19. Mid 1:37s on that first stint is good.


LAP TIME
1 18:09:20
2 2:19.776
3 2:30.630
4 1:52.313
5 1:40.858
6 1:37.652
7 1:37.366
8 1:38.006
9 1:39.062
10 1:37.758
11 P 1:40.308
12 1:56.122
13 1:36.844
14 1:37.143
15 1:37.447
16 1:37.183
17 1:37.797
18 1:36.984
19 1:37.506
20 1:39.078
21 1:40.090
22 1:37.759
23 1:38.377
24 1:37.604
25 1:37.596
26 1:38.758
27 1:37.447
28 1:37.791
29 P 1:40.108
30 1:57.522
31 1:36.063
32 P 1:42.313

[the EDGE]

Breaking news for anyone not watching Teds Notebook

Ted says Cyril carried the can for finishing 5th and was sacked, but he can’t get this officially confirmed

[diffuser]

Breaking news for anyone not watching Teds Notebook

Ted says Cyril carried the can for finishing 5th and was sacked, but he can’t get this officially confirmed

I'd be surprised if that is true. First, losing Ric was bigger than finishing 5th. My guess was more along the lines that they were reducing his responsibility. He didn't like that. They were probably gonna can him at the end of the year but they wanted him to be a bridge into net year.

[the EDGE]

Breaking news for anyone not watching Teds Notebook

Ted says Cyril carried the can for finishing 5th and was sacked, but he can’t get this officially confirmed

I'd be surprised if that is true. First, losing Ric was bigger than finishing 5th. My guess was more along the lines that they were reducing his responsibility. He didn't like that. They were probably gonna can him at the end of the year but they wanted him to be a bridge into net year.

I think getting beaten by McLaren was the reason, losing Ric to them was just part of that