2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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AR3-GP wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 15:23
Forgive me but why do people think soft tires favor Red Bull?
McLaren and Ferrari have seemed better on the harder compounds I'd say?

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Bill wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 15:24
Wouter wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 13:29
basti313 wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 13:10

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I would not aim like this at Honda, it is corporate and corporate makes discissions.

The interesting point in any case is how Yuki ended up in the Alpha Tauri. Was there anything in the engine contract or was he cheap? Is Honda paying his salary?

If it is the salary, nothing changes, Yuki will stay in the RB maybe even for 26. The biggest issue is that he can not go to Aston.
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At the end of 2018, Tsunoda was announced to join Jenzer Motorsport in the newly announced FIA Formula 3 Championship.
Before that he was racing in the Japanese F4.
One day Helmut Marko was watching Yuki at a race in F3 and then he became a RB junior driver, so RB payed everything for Yuki.
Tsunoda also competed for Motopark in the Euroformula Open Championship, following the cancellation of Formula European Masters.

Helmut Marko put Yuki in the AlphaTauri and NO he wasn't cheap and No Honda didn't pay his salary! #-o
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yuki is from Honda school no doubt that's why Honda management are pushing for him to be in a redbull .Honda shouldn't be in these position begging and hoping that redbull make a star out of their home driver.they made some very stupid decision in the past and they are paying for them. they are a large organization they should have weathered the financial crises storm.they strengthened their competitor merc. greed got the better of them.
as to who paid for yuki European junior series no one has the paper to prove its just speculation
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Do you know what it means for a driver when he becomes a member of a teams junior team?
Everything will be paid for is one of the pleasant side effects.
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Wouter wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 16:34
Bill wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 15:24
Wouter wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 13:29

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At the end of 2018, Tsunoda was announced to join Jenzer Motorsport in the newly announced FIA Formula 3 Championship.
Before that he was racing in the Japanese F4.
One day Helmut Marko was watching Yuki at a race in F3 and then he became a RB junior driver, so RB payed everything for Yuki.
Tsunoda also competed for Motopark in the Euroformula Open Championship, following the cancellation of Formula European Masters.

Helmut Marko put Yuki in the AlphaTauri and NO he wasn't cheap and No Honda didn't pay his salary! #-o
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yuki is from Honda school no doubt that's why Honda management are pushing for him to be in a redbull .Honda shouldn't be in these position begging and hoping that redbull make a star out of their home driver.they made some very stupid decision in the past and they are paying for them. they are a large organization they should have weathered the financial crises storm.they strengthened their competitor merc. greed got the better of them.
as to who paid for yuki European junior series no one has the paper to prove its just speculation
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Do you know what it means for a driver when he becomes a member of a teams junior team?
Everything will be paid for is one of the pleasant side effects.
I think you are completely missing the point, that Yuki is part of the Honda Formula Dream Project since 2016. So, much before RedBull could pay for anything, his seat was paid by Honda. This program was criticized, because it did nothing else but paying the seat. If your are good every year more for a higher class, but no real "mentoring" as Marco does.
In 2019 they announced to change to an additional mentoring program, which...surprise, surprise...ties with multiple drivers becoming RedBull Juniors by then. There was no mentor installed by Honda, they used RedBull for this.

So...we do not know the contracts, but do you think the Honda money just drops away, once they announce to improve the program? In my terms this rather means more money...
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basti313 wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 17:13
Wouter wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 16:34
Bill wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 15:24

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yuki is from Honda school no doubt that's why Honda management are pushing for him to be in a redbull .Honda shouldn't be in these position begging and hoping that redbull make a star out of their home driver.they made some very stupid decision in the past and they are paying for them. they are a large organization they should have weathered the financial crises storm.they strengthened their competitor merc. greed got the better of them.
as to who paid for yuki European junior series no one has the paper to prove its just speculation
.
Do you know what it means for a driver when he becomes a member of a teams junior team?
Everything will be paid for is one of the pleasant side effects.
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I think you are completely missing the point, that Yuki is part of the Honda Formula Dream Project since 2016. So, much before RedBull could pay for anything, his seat was paid by Honda. This program was criticized, because it did nothing else but paying the seat. If your are good every year more for a higher class, but no real "mentoring" as Marco does.
In 2019 they announced to change to an additional mentoring program, which...surprise, surprise...ties with multiple drivers becoming RedBull Juniors by then. There was no mentor installed by Honda, they used RedBull for this.

So...we do not know the contracts, but do you think the Honda money just drops away, once they announce to improve the program? In my terms this rather means more money...
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You were asking if Honda is paying his salary, didn't you?

NO, Honda isn't paying his salary. Red Bull is paying his salary.
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basti313 wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 13:10
Was there anything in the engine contract or was he cheap? Is Honda paying his salary?

If it is the salary, nothing changes, Yuki will stay in the RB maybe even for 26. The biggest issue is that he can not go to Aston.
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basti313 wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 17:13

I think you are completely missing the point, that Yuki is part of the Honda Formula Dream Project since 2016. So, much before RedBull could pay for anything, his seat was paid by Honda. This program was criticized, because it did nothing else but paying the seat. If your are good every year more for a higher class, but no real "mentoring" as Marco does.
In 2019 they announced to change to an additional mentoring program, which...surprise, surprise...ties with multiple drivers becoming RedBull Juniors by then. There was no mentor installed by Honda, they used RedBull for this.

So...we do not know the contracts, but do you think the Honda money just drops away, once they announce to improve the program? In my terms this rather means more money...
There are plenty of fast drivers in HFD program that could match European talent. The did hire Takuma Sato and other professional drivers but once you're in F1 and Red Bull jr, you go through all the physical training Yuki did. Liam probably has started on that regimen but he's still got a kid's body. Let's see if RB favor Liam and simply give him better set up and strategy.