That's right. It's one of the things that pisses me off the most about racing competition: sometimes you'll never know.
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That's right. It's one of the things that pisses me off the most about racing competition: sometimes you'll never know.
From the 2026 F1 Technical Regulations:
5.6.17 Engine (ICE) mountings may only comprise six M12 studs for connection to the survival cell
and either four or six M12 studs for connection to the gearbox case. These studs may be
fitted on the survival cell, power unit or gearbox case, their installed end must be M12 and
their free end may be a different diameter.
The six mounting faces of the studs for connection to the survival cell must lie at [X PU, Y,
Z]=[0, ±270, 25], [0, ±360, 270] and [0, ±190, 440]. All six of these studs must be used.
The four mounting faces of the studs for connection to the gearbox case must lie at [X PU, Y,
Z]=[480, ±125, 25] and [480, ±265, 360]. All four of these studs must be used. Optionally, an
additional two studs may be used, provided their coordinates are at [X PU, Y, Z]= [480, ±150,
140].
A tolerance of +/- 0.2mm will be permitted on all of the above dimensions, all dimensions
refer to the centre of the studs. All dimensions in this Article refer to studs fitted
symmetrically about the car centre plane.
Any part which provides dditional load path, aside from the path through the studs defined
above, from the survival cell to the ICE or from the ICE to the gearbox case, is prohibited
unless this is incidental to its principal purpose. Furthermore any such part may provide no
greater structural connection between these pairs of assemblies than is reasonable for the
safe and reliable fulfilment of its purposes.
I'm quite sure it was Honda management's job to manage Honda. I can't how it's AM's fault, if all they was told that everything's fine and AM leadership only got wind of Honda falling back on targets is via leaked rumors. If indeed that is how it happened, it's dishonest and a disrespectful.diffuser wrote: ↑17 Mar 2026, 14:44It was then AMR's job to manage Honda and they failed. You can blame AN, sure he has his share of blame, but the problem was probably already there by the time he joined. Cowell should have been managing that relationship before AN arrived. AN probably exasperated the issue by making late chassis changes.
There were also rumors, that Honda made last minute changed to the engine design. So who knows...
Because if you don't, this can happen and it YOUR team.mzso wrote: ↑18 Mar 2026, 01:02I'm quite sure it was Honda management's job to manage Honda. I can't how it's AM's fault, if all they was told that everything's fine and AM leadership only got wind of Honda falling back on targets is via leaked rumors. If indeed that is how it happened, it's dishonest and a disrespectful.diffuser wrote: ↑17 Mar 2026, 14:44It was then AMR's job to manage Honda and they failed. You can blame AN, sure he has his share of blame, but the problem was probably already there by the time he joined. Cowell should have been managing that relationship before AN arrived. AN probably exasperated the issue by making late chassis changes.
There were also rumors, that Honda made last minute changed to the engine design. So who knows...
...and the development prototypes of the AMG One were sooo handy... Merc discovered a win-win situ, because they could develop the powertrain further, THEN they were selling the roadgoing cars with a healthy marge.SealTheRealDeal wrote: ↑17 Mar 2026, 04:14Any chance Honda has a spare 2014/15 NSX GT500 chassis sitting around? Honda owns Suzuka so they they could copy Ferrari's 2013 "LMP1H testbed that just so happens to sound exactly like our 2014 F1 car, pure coincidence, trust us", if Sakura's test bench is insufficient to realistically test the engine.
yeah this whole narrative of the "honda babysitter clause" is almost hysterical to me. what other formula 1 engine supplier gets a pass for under-performing because the guys that are in charge of designing the chassis didnt help them enough? honda is one of the largest, most accomplished motor manufacturers on the planet. building great engines is literally what they are famous for. in hindsight, yeah, they obviously needed all the help from aston that they couldve recieved, but i can see a better argument that aston had a monumental task at hand to make a competitive chassis with 4 months less time than the other teams. it would be nice if "the great engine manufacturer" could cover the power unit part of the equation. that is what they do right?? even if aston was told that honda were going to shuffle their talented NEW engineers into the project (doubtful they were told about that) and send the ones with f1 experience to other parts of the company, aston wouldve naturally thought that honda must know what theyre doing. otherwise, the fact that they would do that just sounds really amateur to me. i wonder if the chassis happens to suck, would honda get blamed? it seems to me like a serious case of an engine supplier half assing their project. always with one foot in and one foot out of the sport. they hopped back in last minute and didnt get their sh#$ together until they already had a disaster on their handsmzso wrote: ↑18 Mar 2026, 01:02I'm quite sure it was Honda management's job to manage Honda. I can't how it's AM's fault, if all they was told that everything's fine and AM leadership only got wind of Honda falling back on targets is via leaked rumors. If indeed that is how it happened, it's dishonest and a disrespectful.diffuser wrote: ↑17 Mar 2026, 14:44It was then AMR's job to manage Honda and they failed. You can blame AN, sure he has his share of blame, but the problem was probably already there by the time he joined. Cowell should have been managing that relationship before AN arrived. AN probably exasperated the issue by making late chassis changes.
There were also rumors, that Honda made last minute changed to the engine design. So who knows...