2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[daniellammers]

I think Marko mentioned the other day they're bringing an aero update to Suzuka.

It needs to bring a chunk of performance for Red Bull to have any chance of winning again this season. Mercedes are also bringing updates there.

Do you have the source? I'm interested in the way he said it

[ME4ME]

Guys I didn’t read thru all pages so I’m not sure if this has been discussed already but: isn’t it strange that RB didn’t come with any updates to the car since summer break?

They either were working on something for Japan or they simply have switched their focus towards 2020 already... With not a lot to fight for this season, that seems like the better choice.


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In typical Red Bull style they only brought small upgrades. In the RB15 thread are pictures of both an updated diffuser as well as slightly revised bargeboards. Its not like they've done nothing but its obviously not enough.

[Marti_EF3]

We are saying that about Honda without seeing their performance with the new fuel, that is specific (I think) to unlock the Spec 4 full potential. Let's wait and see what happens. It may be a huge step forward, or only a minor one. Also with the aero upgrade (if one is available at Japan).

[FumeReloaded]

Wish we could get a list of all the hp gains from spec to spec throughout the year.

[GhostF1]

Not even close yet, Mercs running 1-2 with solid reliability. For pure power during the race they might be on par for a couple of laps, but Mercedes is still king over a whole weekend and even better over a whole season.

Engine penalties for Mercedes teams are very very rare, all the way back to the beginning of the hybrid rules.

Generally true. But this season has been a little more average. Both Williams and Racing Point have been forced to change units due to on track failures and have exceeded season limits because of that. Strictly facts, Honda have been the most reliable so far. Zero failures, every change has been for an improved unit.

7 PUs for STR.

At least now I know we can lump you in with McMika98 for having no clue and a penchant to troll

[yelistener]

verstappen vs hamilton:
https://streamable.com/23fru
https://streamable.com/23fru

Spec 4 might even have the legs on mercedes, it certainly doesnt seem like they're losing anything to them on the straights. It's just that ferrari is on a different level entirely.

It seems FOM decided to stay with the high shutter speed on Mercedes onboard camera. Good for me. Motion blur sucks.

[Wouter]

A Happy 22th Birthday to Max Verstappen.

[marmer]

After spending just more than half the season at Toro rosso albon is only a couple of half decent results from overtaking gasley in the drivers standings
Not bad to to say he has had to start from the back of the grid a few times since his switch

[Manoah2u]

After spending just more than half the season at Toro rosso albon is only a couple of half decent results from overtaking gasley in the drivers standings
Not bad to to say he has had to start from the back of the grid a few times since his switch

not sure if being serious or trolling.

Albon's done more in Sochi than Gasly made in his entire F1 career.

[marmer]

After spending just more than half the season at Toro rosso albon is only a couple of half decent results from overtaking gasley in the drivers standings
Not bad to to say he has had to start from the back of the grid a few times since his switch

not sure if being serious or trolling.

Albon's done more in Sochi than Gasly made in his entire F1 career.

not sure if being incorrect or flippant. gasly has finished 4th so not quite lol

[Manoah2u]

Allright, i'm exxegerating, i'm just pointing out that Albon has done much more overtakes in the past races and drove far more in the spotlights and interesting than i've seen Gasly do.

[diffuser]

Generally true. But this season has been a little more average. Both Williams and Racing Point have been forced to change units due to on track failures and have exceeded season limits because of that. Strictly facts, Honda have been the most reliable so far. Zero failures, every change has been for an improved unit.

7 PUs for STR.

At least now I know we can lump you in with McMika98 for having no clue and a penchant to troll

Me too!

For someone that is so Honda bias that he excuses the obvious.

[Capharol]

Not even close yet, Mercs running 1-2 with solid reliability. For pure power during the race they might be on par for a couple of laps, but Mercedes is still king over a whole weekend and even better over a whole season.

Engine penalties for Mercedes teams are very very rare, all the way back to the beginning of the hybrid rules.

Generally true. But this season has been a little more average. Both Williams and Racing Point have been forced to change units due to on track failures and have exceeded season limits because of that. Strictly facts, Honda have been the most reliable so far. Zero failures, every change has been for an improved unit.

7 PUs for STR.

Mercedes and Ferrari used 6 and now what?

[GhostF1]

7 PUs for STR.

At least now I know we can lump you in with McMika98 for having no clue and a penchant to troll

Me too!

For someone that is so Honda bias that he excuses the obvious.

Yes you're right. Honda have been the most unreliable and slowest developing PU manufacturer of 2019, you are absolutely right. I must be mistaken about the zero failure record and increased dev rate. I sincerely apologise for ignoring all the facts...

I'll just continue to quote the PU usage chart in isolation while ignoring reality in the vain attempt I can skew the facts in which this forum is for.

Good luck my friend, ignorance is bliss.

[GhostF1]

Generally true. But this season has been a little more average. Both Williams and Racing Point have been forced to change units due to on track failures and have exceeded season limits because of that. Strictly facts, Honda have been the most reliable so far. Zero failures, every change has been for an improved unit.

7 PUs for STR.

Mercedes and Ferrari used 6 and now what?

Apparently exceeding PU element limits due to on track failures/reliability issues is not an issue.

But if you use the same amount because of a combination of accidents and a faster development rate with new engine specs and yet zero track failures, that is somehow far worse.

I almost hope he'ses trolling at this point